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    Discussion in 'Archives' started by germanicus, Dec 30, 2016.

    1. Trainbj

      Trainbj New Member

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      Do someone has same problem as me when I am using MapBot and AIF bot collect everything unId to stashes but when I use oldGrindBot then its working fine. I am using custom rules and communitylib but still this wont work in MapBot :/
       
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      What should i google about recipe system, except this? Vendor recipe system - Official Path of Exile Wiki
      Give me some tip, what should i read?
       
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      The type of currency produced depends on the lowest-level item in the set, and the quantity on whether they are all unidentified and/or 20% quality.
      Note: If a rare item below 60 is added to a chaos orb recipe then the recipe will change to a chance orb recipe.
      60-74ilvl items for chaos recipe.
       
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      I just started botting a month ago, and I am kinda curious about how much orbs others are making per hour on average.

      Here's my stats:

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      Pardon the chaos -> dollar value, didn't bother to update it.

      For a single buddy key, I am making 1 chaos worth of orb per minute on average just by looting, vendoring RGB, 6 sockets and chaos recipe.

      With the occasional T1 unique drops, and level 20 gems, I have managed to make a little over 100 exalted everyday for a month now in breach hardcore, with only 2 buddy keys.
       
    6. legitplayer

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      Lately i´m extremly unlucky with Chaos recipe. I´m just doin 6S uniuqes and Recipes. running flicker@60quant 100rarity with an averg. clear of 4-5 mins mid tiers(rare). Doing about 3-4 Recipes p/h only since i just find like 1 amulet in 5 maps. it´s really frustrating lately. Otherwise arround 10 recipes/h should be doable. since i had days with over 200pur c in 24/hours with random idles effectiv botting maybe 10-12hours.
       
    7. Gurkis

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      That's a shit load of currency mate.

      What type of build you running in BHC?

      Also, what plugin/addon is that in your screenshot?
       
    8. RandomExile

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      It's an overlay of a private plugin I wrote that handles everything from flask management to chaos recipe, I am just too skeptical to use public plugins.

      Builds are self made as well, each with some variation, again, I'm just too skeptical about everything.
       
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      that is a pretty large unsubstantiated number to not be including gems in.
      PS do people do RGB?
       
    10. DontBeAfraid

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      it's not really that much. 60c/h, on league HC with those convertion ratios.
      I'd say his farm is good, but not much above average.
       
    11. eatinapineapple

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      That's some nice detective work on the HC - I didn't catch that.

      I am solidly average then :/.

      Actually I'm okay with that.
       
    12. Toroxors

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      How are you guys setting up your vaal spark in the routine? Did you have to modify the actual routine so it only uses vaal spark when there are more mobs standing near its target in the routine file itself?
       
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      Yes you have to edit the oldroutine to work with it.
       
    14. Toroxors

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      yeah i figured I would have to do that. What maps do you guys find the best to run, I understand the general consensus is tiers 1-3, but which ones in those tiers are the best?
       
    15. vendettas

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      I don't run Vaal Spark, but with the mechanics of it, open world maps would allow for more effectiveness (I don't think any build likes a bunch of walls anyways...).

      So you're looking at Jungle Valley, Beach, Oasis, Arid Lake, potentially Desert and Marshes. Tier four would include Acid Lakes, tier five would include Mesa (personal favorite), Dunes, and Peninsula.

      Keep in mind -- there's nothing wrong with running higher tier maps, so long as clear times don't drop off. You'll get marginally better drops, and as long as you keep one item in the chaos recipe level range, you'll still get plenty of recipes. I personally run my breachstones daily for chaos-level rares, and use them for recipes with the higher-level items from my map drops.
       
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      Desert
      Jungle Valley, Beach, Oasis
      Arid Lake
       
    17. Toroxors

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      Thanks. Right now im clearing maps in around 4-5 mins (not vaal spark character) on a different character, and im getting around 5-6 recipes per hour. I'm going to try the vaal spark character and see how that one goes.
       
    18. vendettas

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      I run a raging spirit build and do my t9-t12 maps in ~3m20s average. Try it out.
       
    19. Toroxors

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      SRS does seem like it would be safe enough for something like this, did you follow a particular build? Im trying out different builds to see the build im going to go with in the next league. Also, does magic find impact your chaos recipe per hour?
       
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      Build: Forum - Witch - [2.5] SRS LL Auramancer in-depth guide (Shaper, Uber, and MF Viable) - Path of Exile

      MF affects rare item drop chance, so yes, it will increase your recipes. Also, IIQ essentially increases the number of recipe items, increasing recipes even more. I average between 11-14 recipes/hour on t9-t12 maps when I'm not interrupting to trade or whatnot.

      In all honesty, I think recipe rate is boring to try to 'chase' -- recipes are the base income. On higher tier maps with the build I linked (high MF), I get more chaos out of unique items than I do from recipes on an hourly basis. Staples like Tabs, Agnerods, Drillnecks, etc. add up over time, and then the bigger ticket items are just gravy.
       
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