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    1. Xcesius

      Xcesius Community Developer

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      Hi xaq,

      Adding a PetManager is something that is on my to-do list. I will hopefully have it done by WoD :)
       
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      I don't agree, first even DS is enough to survive if you don't take anymore damage, also I don't use DeathPact but Death Siphon.
      DP is useless in my eyes and I highly prefer a small heal with no CD than a big on with the big CD.

      Anyway in my eyes still should use any heal (DS, DP, Death Siphon, HealthStone, Conversion, Lichborne) as soon as Purgatory procs.
       
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      You do realise putting EF on someone else doesn't scale with vengeance, right? It's just a normal 12k tick or whatever it is.. So I'd like you to post the logs where pally tanks are healing other people for 100m+ in an encounter :p

      Edit; nvm, i think i misunderstood, they arent doing 100m to other people, just 100m in general through the fight? Still, EF doesn't scale with vengeance on other people, so i dont see the use tbh when you could be doing damage with SoTR
       
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      Hi PeaceVsWar,

      Please use Hotkey Mode for the time being when using Unholy.
       
    6. PeaceVsWar

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      I just tested in a bg still have fps dips

      So frost is really not a problem since I got 100 fps unholy 1fps I just do not know why
       
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      I don't know how to use Light's Hammer hotkey.
      Global - hotkeys setting--> special key is alt+3 // hotkey mode selection is hotkey mode.
      Retribution setting --> Light's hammer Location is OnMe // Light's hammer hotkey enable is True.
       
    8. Eckhaert

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      Yeah, no, you're wrong, EF scales with vengeance, on everyone.
      I've done 800k+ crits with EF on raids members, pretty much every week, on high vengeance bosses (juggernaut, malk, thok, garrosh)

      Random garrosh log from WCL rankings page : Warcraft Logs - Combat Analysis for Warcraft

      There's 100k+ EF TICKS (not the initial healing)
       
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      yea he's completely wrong, with vengeance there are 1 MILLION HP off-heals on the other tank on multiple logs - that's like a LOH every swap if you needed not even including the tics. if it didn't scale with vengeance it would be impossible to get 30% of your heals on other raid members which is seen on many logs, especially if you consider the 50% hot bonus for self use. you just don't see this much now for 588 ilvl guilds who just steamroll everything and the druids are overhealing by 70% it's so easy for them, but the *right* way to play a prot pally is to take advantage of their off-healing ability, especially during progression raiding. from eckhaert's log there's an initial heal on the offtank for 344k with 980k overheal - you don't get a 1.3M heal without vengeance.

      Encore's prot pally which I think is one of the top on Illidan shows his average hit for SOTR on juggs (one of the high vengeance bosses) to be 224k (less while you are off-tanking and vengeance is trending down more when u are tanking) - so if you are progressing, is a 224k hit gonna change the outcome of the raid more or a 1 MILLION HP offheal with another million or more in tics from the HOT? don't think i've seen many 200k hits save a raid.
       
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      another thing i just tested although i'm embarrassed to admit. wiped 4 times in an OQ PUG on normal garrosh as UH DK. I'm in partial blood gear with 2 pieces with parry on them, but with 569 Skeer's and Thok's, and 575 Garrosh axe and 2pc UH bonus. Wiped in last phase with full up-time on boss stack method and noticed the dps was pretty bad for 568 ilvl with decent weapon and trinkets so enough up-time and dmg to be semi-significant also plenty of cleave dmg from the adds and weapons. also confirmed it dropped FPS hugely. with YRB2 I was only getting 210-235k dps which is low for this setup, not sure if the huge fps killer is the cause of the dps being bad.

      swapped to Tuanha on next attempt and no FPS drop and 275k dps. same group, same buffs, same up-time. i don't think the rotation on tuanha is better since he's really only concerned about pvp, but i think the fps dropping by like 80% has something to do with the output.
       
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      When your fps drops so much pls check your Enyo bot settings. I had this problem that my settings for Enyo randomyl gets changed that both Hardlock and Softlock is enabled.

      Not sure about dk but Taunha shaman routine is pretty bad. things like pulling boss when out of combat even when turned off/ overwriting fire elemental with magma totem and auto targeting even when turned off. All issues were reported for months and he refused to even acknowledge the issue. Taunha's support sucks.
       
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      Yea that's why I. Was shocked tuanha was outperforming yrb2 by a large margin. His pve tuning is pretty mediocre unless u disable basically everything and control all specials and talents. I tested both only hard lock and soft lock on yrb2 and both were bad surprisurprisingly since blood is so smooth and better than tuanha.
       
    14. Xcesius

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      Hi lawrence131,

      That's because the Coroutine that was added for Unholy isn't quite ready yet. I had to add it because some classes was in need of some fixes. It will be resolved when PrePatch 6.0.2 hits
       
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      Thanks for quick reply XC. Overall I still think your bundle is the best deal there is - I would gladly pay this amount for nothing but the blood routine alone and it comes with several excellent ones. One spec being temporarily off isn't a big deal, was just confirming what others were seeing with some slightly objective data beyond "my dps is too bad." I'm a big fan of parsing and comparing data and Simcrafting everything.

      Here are a couple of blood dominating SS's with your routine and this is my newest and least geared tank and NOT outgearing the group. I did do quite a bit of vengeance cheesing, AMS soaking, etc. so you see the ridiculous amounts of Runestrike damage, but still highlights how good the CR is especially since it's built for survival and does this very well.

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      the second was an early wipe so there's some inflation from the initial stacked burst from all procs and stuff but both are quite impressive for a non-heroic tank, partially pride geared still outperforming the entire group.
       

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    16. Dart01902

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      hi ive been using YRB premium for a couple weeks but tonight i noticed that as BM on my hunter it was just spamming Serp Sting.

      Log attached
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      this is a repost from earlier as it is still ongoing and hasnt recived any feedback, setting were cleared but problem persists...
       
    17. Xcesius

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      Hi Dart01902,

      I can confirm this is a bug, but have you tried reinstalling HB just for a quick test?
       
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      ok will try this and get back
       
    19. Xcesius

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      New build coming, up for approval in the store. Will post another reply once it's live.

      Unholy freezes fixed for now.

      Fixed Serpent Sting spamming for BM hunters. Sorry guys for not fixing it faster was busy with WoD :)
      Fixed hopefully Light's Hammer now.


      Note this will be the final release before 6.0.2 patch! I will not fix more things before 6.0.2.
       
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      @ Xcesius: pls give love @ chicken druid for WoD :) now is not best output...
       

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