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    Discussion in 'Mining-Botany Profiles' started by Mooncloud, Sep 30, 2015.

    1. sleepynamja

      sleepynamja New Member

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      Out of 100 8/8 Purity Level 58 aetherial reductions (mostly BTN gathered items) I got the following:
      40 Duskborne Aethersand
      3 Duskborne Aethersand HQ
      79 Dawnborne Aethersand
      19 Dawnborne Aethersand HQ
      1 Landborne Aethersand
      1 Landborne Aethersand HQ
      16 Leafborne Aethersand
      1 Leafborne Aethersand HQ

      Out of 74 8/8 Purity Level 60 aetherial reductions (mostly BTN gathered items) I got the following:
      14 Duskborne Aethersand
      6 Duskborne Aethersand HQ
      23 Dawnborne Aethersand
      6 Dawnborne Aethersand HQ
      18 Landborne Aethersand
      4 Landborne Aethersand HQ
      18 Leafborne Aethersand
      16 Leafborne Aethersand HQ
       
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    2. ngardina

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      Any chance of a variation of this that includes the Lightning Moraines too?
       
    3. Trras

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      How do you keybind it or macro it? So far I'm clicking Aetherial reduction from the hotkey bar, clicking each one and then clicking Reduce.
       
    4. heshire

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      I'm constantly getting "Unable to summon your chocobo while he is stabled." after hitting the first node.

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      [18:38:35.592 V] [ExGather v3.0.7.1510033] Started gathering from Lush Vegetation Patch with 580/600 GP at 4:39 PM ET
      [18:38:35.592 V] Blacklisting 4000025A for 00:00:15 [Type: Interact] - Reason : Blacklisting node so that we don't retarget -> Lush Vegetation Patch 0xF5B67D0
      [18:38:35.592 V] [Poi.Clear] Reason: Skipping this node, no items we want to gather.
      [18:38:35.990 V] [ExBuddy] Attempting to close the [Gathering] window
      [18:38:36.124 V] [ExBuddy] The [Gathering] window has been closed.
      [18:38:36.125 V] [Poi.Clear] Reason: Something happened during gathering and we did not complete the sequence
      [18:38:36.159 D] Requesting path on 400 from <-88.26821, -9.909212, 445.0622> to <11.07565, -15.92928, 374.9797>
      [18:38:36.247 D] Generated path to <11.07565, -15.92928, 374.9797> in 00:00:00.0883667 ms
      [18:38:36.759 N] [FlightNav] Generating path on 400 from <-88.26821, -9.909212, 445.0622> to <11.07565, -15.92928, 374.9797>
      [18:38:36.765 V] [ExBuddy] Direction of deviation: ForwardUp
      [18:38:36.766 N] [FlightNav] Generated path to <11.07565, -15.92928, 374.9797> using 23 hops in 00:00:00.0070661 ms
      [18:38:36.791 N] [FlightMover] Started Takeoff Task
      [18:38:36.791 N] [FlightMover] Created new Takeoff Coroutine
      [18:38:36.791 N] [FlightMover] Resumed Takeoff Coroutine
      [18:38:36.877 D] DoAction Mount 1 0xE0000000
      [18:38:36.925 N] [FlightMover] Resumed Takeoff Coroutine
      [18:38:41.942 N] [FlightMover] Created new Takeoff Coroutine
      [18:38:41.942 N] [FlightMover] Resumed Takeoff Coroutine
      [18:38:42.041 D] DoAction Mount 1 0xE0000000[/hide]

      I changed all the MountId="1" to the mount I do want to use but it still does this. Is there another file that I need to modify for this to work?
       
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    5. Mooncloud

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      See page 1 of this thread.

      This is coming in the next update.
       
    6. heshire

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      Figured it out awhile ago but forgot to edit my post, thanks though!
       
    7. Mooncloud

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      I am currently testing out the Lightning Moraine and Furymint gathering in my profile. It is going to take me a while to test since these node cycles take a full day.


      EDIT: Found a few problems with my Lightning Moraine navigation in Sea of Clouds. No update today
       
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    8. sleepynamja

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      I think that area (for miners) in general has problems, not only with your profile, from what I've been reading. The favor farming profile has trouble there as well (for miners).
       
    9. tishat

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      I had working lightning ephemeral hotspots till matt did something(making our birds scrape their knees against ledges) recently XD

      Edit: I totally misread stuff..
       
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    10. Mooncloud

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      It just requires a little more verbosity than the other sections of the profile. The first problem is I cannot tell the bot to directly fly to that section of the zone. There are some floating islands and such that it gets stuck on, so I have to divert it away from that. I think I've got that nailed down now. The other issue is the bot isn't smart enough to recognize where it can and cannot land. If you're familiar with the area you'll know that there are some steep cliffs around that Ephemeral node, and if you approach it from a certain angle, the bot will try and land on the slope. It has some behavior it executes after it detects that it is "stuck" but it is VERY bot like and causes a lot of red flags. Obviously I'm doing my best to mitigate that. That said, the one in Sea of Clouds is pretty close to done.

      The Lightning Moraine farming in CWH is almost all set too, but there are some situations where the bot would be done with that area, and attempt to fly north (to the next Ephemeral farming area) and get stuck on some rocks.

      I should have the update out this evening.
       
    11. sleepynamja

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      Awesome! Can't wait to try it. As for it getting stuck on some rocks, would it be possible to make it double back so it goes a bit south first? Either that or fly up pretty high in the air lol
       
    12. ff14player

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      Great work! Testing this out on lvl 60 gatherers with 603 GP. My main issue is that it gets way too many 2/8 items… and wondering if there's a way to ensure at least 3/8+ items? Waiting around for more GP doesn't sound bad if inventory is going to fill up with a bunch of junk. =)
       
    13. SuperMoon

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      No. This profile uses the accepted Ephemeral rotation to maximize chance of 8/8 L60 items appearing, while still having a decent chance (2x30%) of getting 3/8+ on any given L56/L58 node. Just reduce the 2/8s you get for crystals and clusters! They're always in demand for crafters.

      Edit: Well, it's possible to program it such that if Discerning Eye does not proc on either Impulsive, you use DE before the last Methodical to ensure 3/8. However, this is inefficient compared to the rotation currently being sued.
       
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    14. ff14player

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      Yes, but my GP is full and didn't get a proc for the past 20 minutes, so it's just "wasting" that GP potential to collect a bunch of junk =D
       
    15. Mooncloud

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      You would run out of GP a LOT faster. You'd essentially never be above 200 (Unless you just used a cordial) because that is exactly how much you need for a Discerning Eye. So when the time comes where you do get a proc, you wouldn't have enough for the 8/8 rotation Single Mind -> Utmost Caution. Not to mention the downtime you'd be sitting around waiting for 200 GP. If you look at the information Sleepynamja posted, the 8/8 yield the most HQ rare items...which can sell for hundreds of thousands, even million+ on some servers.

      Now, unless on your server the Duskborne Aethersand are like 100x the cost of a Landborne or Leafborne Aethersand, I don't see this being a net gain. Over the course of 1 day I get about 200+ Duskborne Aethersand.

      As an aside, never go to Vegas! In 20 minutes you didn't get a proc? The chances of that are astronomical!
       
    16. ff14player

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      Yup, I'm literally sitting here watching my character collect a bunch of 321 collectibility items while my GP is 603. I must be missing something...
       
    17. Mooncloud

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      Just curious.... what is your character's perception for Botany and Mining?
       
    18. ff14player

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      G658 P673 for Miner
      G712 P691 for Botanist
       
    19. ff14player

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      Don't get me wrong, once in a blue moon it will hit nodes for 450 to 550. But veeeeeery few times have I seen this.
       
    20. SuperMoon

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      Yes, it normally is very rare, since you need a proc on a L60 node. That's why it doesn't use any GP on the L56 ones. Since L60 rarely appears, and then even then you might not get a proc.
       

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