About your server... Realm: ( ) EU; ( ) Pacific; (x) US; Type: ( ) PvE; ( ) PvP; ( ) RP; Normal(x); About the account... Account created after the 10-Nov-2016 banwave? ( ) Yes; (x) No; Account had previous suspensions or bans? (x) Yes; ( ) No; Did you bot on this account even once with Tripwire disabled? ( ) Yes; (x) No; About account usage... How many (average) hours per day did you bot? Just a couple of hours to start leveling again. What estimated percentage of the time did you supervise your bot? 90% How many auctions per day did you post on this account? Only 2 from some of the matts I had from the account before the first suspension. Did you use any non-Honorbuddy bots with this account? ( ) Yes; (x) No; If so, which ones? N/A (A non-legitimate Honorbuddy should be listed here, as it does not have the same account protections as legitimate Honorbuddy.) Did you use any H4cks, Che4ts, or mods with this account? ( ) Yes; (x) No; (If so, please name them.) Which Combat Routines have you used with this account during the PAST FOUR WEEKS? (x) Singular; ( ) Accessary Routines; ( ) Gladiator Suite; ( ) KingWoW; ( ) ManOfWar; ( ) Millz; ( ) Omation; ( ) RichieCR; ( ) TuanHA; (x) Other third-party (please specify);: Echo Tiger 1-110. In which of these activities has the account participated as a bot during the PAST FOUR WEEKS? ( ) Gold buying; ( ) Gold selling; ( ) Game-time Token (bought with game gold); ( ) PvP: Arena (rated or non-rated); ( ) PvP: Battlegrounds (rated or non-rated); ( ) PvP: Zones (e.g., Ashran, Wintergrasp, etc.); ( ) Archeology sessions (greater than four hours); ( ) Dungeon diving (mixed human/bot party); ( ) Dungeon farming (SOLO, or ALL-BOT PARTIES, ONLY; same set of dungeons greater than four hours); ( ) Dungeon raiding (LFR; 10+ person dungeons) ( ) Fishing sessions (greater than four hours); ( ) Garrison maintenance / management; ( ) Gathering sessions (greater than four hours); ( ) Questing (only questing purposes OTHER THAN leveling. E.g., dailies, proto-drake hunting, pet acquisition, etc.); ( ) The account used a 'relogger' ( ) The account used 'Server hopping'; ( ) The account used VPN; ( ) Something else (please specify);: Nothing really fancy besides running normal leveling to start getting back to 100 Do you have any observations about the event you'd like to share? Well I botted right after the first ban wave and it was with the client that was theorized as being safe at the time(waited until tripwire was lifted). Then I took a break over the past week over the thanksgiving holiday. I had a feeling that I may have done something wrong as the bot was doing some strange things like what happened before the first banwave of November. Such as, I noticed a mob in the Wrath of the Lich King content that I had targeted and was moved into a big ol' boulder. I wish I recorded game-play because it was obvious that a mod moved that little bugger and I happily followed a long. Luckily I was watching the bot and tried to play it off like WTF and poked a couple times then carried on but that was really sketchy and I just assumed it was because of my previous suspension on the account and they were just testing me. From what I have gathered though any build before 869 is detected. I really wasn't mad but I think I have one more account coming off suspension soon that I wouldn't mind botting and loosing again lol. I know people are going to be upset but it seems right now blizzard is doing something sneaky. Finally the other thing I notice while watching the bot is that the game client shows the circle of downloading some kind of content EVEN though my client is fully up to date. I believe its called ninja patching or it may be the warden client getting new heuristics on the fly(Its a theory but I really think correlation is causation in this instance) but I noticed this on my last account before the early ban wave and I noticed it on this account during the after banwave banwave lol. I hope this observation helps and can lead to something. Stay safe and keep on botting we all know you cant stop.. .