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    Discussion in 'Discussions (no Ban Reports here)' started by mightfight, Aug 15, 2016.

    1. mightfight

      mightfight Member

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      This is not from me but another heavy botting source. Maybe height is the problem with all the bots?


      After Niantic changed the API the guys from Reddit needed 4 days to ***** the "new API".

      They noticed that the servers from Niantic are not only asking for your position, they are also asking for your height.

      Since the Reddit guys were just interested in *****ing the API and not into supporting a growing botting community, they did not changed the "height" value.

      So we are moving around with our bots and our height doesn't change, it doesn't matter if we are in the Netherlands or catching Pokemon on the Mount Everest.

      So in my eyes, all people are talking about human behavior of bots, changing speed and how clever they are that they did not get caught.
      If someone is clever he should fix that problem inside the API and maybe we can **** this shitty company again!

      Of course not all will be banned on one day, it take it's time to filter and proof millions of accounts, but just this fact should make it very easy for Niantic to detect everyone using a bot, even if it was only for one hour.
       
    2. jrr6415sun

      jrr6415sun New Member

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      niantic is getting a lot more sensor data than just your height. The height is the least of your worries.
       
    3. braddahjosh

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      The only way they can track altitude is with an altimeter and most phones don't have built in altimeters.
       
    4. toleranciazero

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      That can be the problem, because gps spoofing does not change the altitude.
       
    5. PokeMJ0223

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      I think the reason is because we catch 1000+ Pokémon’s a day, play 8+ hours a day and mostly don’t use the "random break" option.

      Most games investigate player that are playing to many hours a day. If they see bot-like behavior you will get a ban.

      The security is lacking ATM, but in the future you will really need to watch out for your total play time a day, and use the "random break" option.

      I also play way to many hours a day. But now I am switching account in the morning and after work.

      I am not trying to say you are wrong, but if you are keeping up the behavior I just described, you will lose your account eventually.
       
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    6. schadowhunter

      schadowhunter New Member

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      This.

      The bot should/will implement features such as

      - Max Postops/Pokemon/Evolves/Stardust per day/hour
      - Human like walking (no teleports, no walking through houses and rivers, not over 10km/h)
      - Long breaks, not over 10h playtime a day

      The goal is to make bots appear as human as possible including sleeping, resting, taking breaks and so on.
       
    7. toleranciazero

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      but the altitude in gps data is very suspicious, its almost impossibel to walk 5 km with no meter altitude change
       
    8. Dosenbeer

      Dosenbeer New Member

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      We need:
      -Start here
      -Walk in this area for x hours with changing random speed between x and x km/h with random stops for x to x minutes
      -Go back to the Start
      -Log out
      -Login with another Account
      -Repeat with differnt settings
       
    9. farmzilla

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      This is not the only reason , i checked that from day one and only botted 7h a day still some accounts got banned .

      Think the egg incubator thing really is one of the biggest issues here . All my banned accounts have that checked, the ones without are still going .
      Devs seem to be ontop of that .

      Newest build seems to run fine though not one softban received at 2h running now

      Altitude seems very unlikely most phones dont have that build in .
       
    10. toleranciazero

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      the altitude comes from gps sinal calculations not from altimeter
       
    11. mightfight

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      Server sees altitude at same level for 8 hours straight or even 1 hour and how far the person traveled easy detection of a bot or gps spoofing imo. Then bam banned
       
    12. toleranciazero

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      thats right, its the bigest flaw so far
       
    13. JosMarCo

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      +1 ....
       
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      And mygobot allowed you change your altitude on the fly.. I seriously do not see why bossland doesn't just ditch pokefarmer and work on mygobot..
       
    15. seanw

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      You may be right, however I would imagine (but don't know for certain) that Pokefarmer uses the standard X (latitude) Y (longitude) and Z (altitude) parameters of the map service they use for spoofing. Just like Google maps, every coordinate in any half decent map also has a Z value. I would be shocked if they pros who made this one didn't take into account Z as well.
       
    16. mightfight

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      Would make sense why gps spoofers are getting banned as well....
       

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