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    1. Millz

      Millz Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      I remember reading a post (maybe from Bossland actually) a while back stating that it wasn't the money which prevented hiring more devs, it's the lack of people who have the required knowledge and skill to work on an application like Honorbuddy/Demonbuddy/Tankleader etc. I'm sure if you can find someone who knew ASM/Reversing/Memory Manipulation/Game Developing knowledge, Bossland and Hawker would be interested to speak to them. Most of the people who have the required knowledge are already on BosslandGmbH's payroll.

      Combat Routines / Profiles / Plugins were always created by the community, ever since the API was introduced. The scene is slowly (and sadly) changing to a 'pay for product' scene, and the content is become more scarce because those of us who develop things for free are less inclined to do so. As a prime example, the PureRotation team have spent thousands of hours combined now to develop a superior combat routine that covers every class and spec. Combined we've probably received $100 in donations in total. Other developers can write a routine for 1 specialization, charge $15 for it, and make thousands of dollars. Those of us who write the free products get dis-heartened.

      If people want more content, then take a look at the code behind some existing profiles/plugins/routines and have a go yourself. I looked at writing a profile for the first time 2 days ago, and it's actually pretty damn easy. I've now got a half-arsed working black temple farm (which i'll be releasing free once I've tuned it).
       
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    2. Hallface

      Hallface New Member

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      If you give the devs the idea of making HB a sub I will hack your computer, get all your personal info, fly to your house, and lightly slap you on the wrist while saying "tiss tiss, shame on you!"
       
    3. grom2010

      grom2010 New Member

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      That explaines it dude. You have ONE person doing the update. And btw you DO delete posts because you disagree or you just close them to piss us off even more. Dont know whos crying rly???
       
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    4. m0rf0

      m0rf0 Member

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      Mate, you need your prozac back. Badly.
       
    5. grom2010

      grom2010 New Member

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      Wow that comment just made everything better. Thanks for waisting my time.
       
    6. Tony

      Tony "The Bee" Staff Member Moderator

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      3 months mute
       
    7. Hawker

      Hawker Well-Known Member Buddy Core Dev

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      Updating HB to work with WoW after a patch takes a few hours. But the last 2 patches have included things that force us to stop, assess and take time to work around them. If we could release the working bot, we would. As of now, we can't. Expect something in the next few hours.
       
    8. Darknight1

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      Awsome m8 just awsome..

      i like the lifetime keys myself no need for a sub and i prob wouldnt pay for it thats main reason i wont use the Buddywing.
       
    9. mspazz

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      I'm actually pretty concerned with the latest update in the $17055 update thread about the new detection methods. I received my first ban ever and I've been botting on the same account since vanilla starting with Glider. Hawker is there anything else you guys can release about this?
       
    10. Hawker

      Hawker Well-Known Member Buddy Core Dev

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      There is no way your ban is related to what has been activated in the last mini patch since HB didn't run after the patch was applied.

      We don't really want to talk about the changes in WoW.
       
    11. mspazz

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      Okay so the new detections were implemented after the patch wednesday morning? I was banned wednesday morning. I'm pretty sure HB closed my WoW when the tripwire shut HB down from the update.

      EDIT: If that is the case, then I'm farily certain what got me banned...and it had nothing to do with HB/GB/ProfessionBuddy.
       
    12. Aion

      Aion Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      FYI, you were DCed when the servers have shutted down for restart, and even with relogger, the HB client was not possible to be attached to the WoW client after the update, due to the versions mismatch.
      So, explain, how the tripware would activate back then?
      And another tip - when the tripware activate, we all would know, but it seems, your the only one with tripware up here?
       
    13. Spanishguy

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      i lol'd so hard. maybe ppl should learn to vent their frustrations more calmly an this wouldnt happen to them lol. Big hard rock that fell on his head there lmao
       
    14. zbikksmash

      zbikksmash Banned

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      I just posted a post that had some offensive language and for that I am sorry but I was merely stating that all the money that Hb has made off of there product why cant they hire more people to get this a 24/7 working progress. Seems to be that blizzard has stepped it up but Hb is playing a rat race that they are not winning. When I started in cata I was super happy with how much time I got to use it with the few down times that we had. Now in mop it seems to me that blizzard stepped it up and HB is down almost as much as it is up. So to ask what the original post asked what does HB plan on doing to counter blizzards more aggressive approach on catching you. Im just wondering because I love the bot but im for one getting tired of all the down time.
       
    15. Stoyo

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      I have absolutely no problem to take my break for a few days if I have to. For me it would be much more pleasant experience to go out drinking than to raid w/o LR. However, if I go out drinking and the bot comes back and I miss a raid that I waited for a week, i will be pissed. So yeah, I prefer my LR raiding to drinking. And I prefer my drinking over regular raiding. Which one to choose when I don't know when the bot is comming back? Got my point? ETA, ETA,ETA! If we have it we plan our day and our week and we don't sit here bitchin in the forum.
       
    16. iwishiwasntanoob

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      omg dont you lot get it becuase the bot isnt working we have to do thing the way they was ment to be done and play are toons


      ITS THE END OF THE WORLD HOW DO I PLAY THIS GAME
       
    17. ruaduck

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      You smacked it on the head "rat race", WoW is being updated more than Cata was.. so hence more downtimes. Since these guys always have to play catch up you will have to have downtime. I am grateful for downtime because, it means they are working out the kinks. Maybe at the same time they are implimenting something new into HB. The more agressive WoW wants to be, the longer your downtimes will be. You can throw as many devs at this update, but doesn't speed up the process of test and detection. Stable versions (for even betas) are much needed. You will be complaining more if something detrimental were to happen to your computer or to your account.
       
    18. zbikksmash

      zbikksmash Banned

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      That's not what we meant but if you feel the need to use bold faced caps by all means ty it makes it easier to see.
       
    19. Apoc

      Apoc Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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      Just to point something out, which may have confused a few people...

      When I say there's usually just one of us updating HB after a patch, it's because not much has changed. Our tools to update between patches will typically do 85% of the work for us, within 15 minutes of analyzing the new binaries. However, we have a bunch of addresses that we check manually (sometimes, we're able to check a few key ones, and if they don't change, neither do the rest. However, if we miss one, we can change it later anyway, without a new build required), which takes a little bit of time. There's no reason to send all of us to update HB when the bulk of the time taken, is just analyzing the new binaries and diffing with our old ones. When there are "big" changes (like this last patch), we will have more of us on the patch doing things. But generally, any patch (for basically any bot we have) takes no longer than about 2 hours to update for. Again, that's excluding "big" changes (or sneaky/annoying ones). The majority of the downtime is making sure we didn't miss anything (typically another 30min-2hrs) before we do a beta release for the masses to ensure our own testing didn't miss anything.

      So again, just because we don't throw all of us on an update patch, doesn't mean we're slacking. It's just a waste of time for us all to work on something that doesn't require us to work on it. (Btw, all of us, no matter what bot we're currently focusing on, are constantly adding new things to all of our bots. Whether it's publicly noted or not. We never stop development on our products.)

      And as someone (Sorry, I forgot who) stated, anybody with the knowledge to keep up with these types of applications, are more than welcome to talk to Hawker or Bossland. We're always looking for help! (But, that help has some pretty high requirements, considering the products we sell)
       
    20. issac

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      Agreed!
       

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