MyStory- 10k$$ in best month - my rise, my fall, my conclusions

Hey Community, i want to stay anonymous, so dont wonder thats my first post with this account. I know, no webadmin likes multiaccount using, but please HB team, dont delete my post. i am sure that some people will learn from my story - not only for their botting income - they will learn something to use maybe in their future, for their real life.
First of all: Sorry for my english!

Start of all:
2008
My Story starts in about 2008 - i was 16 years old - i got a dream: Is it possible to make money with selling gold i asked my real life friend and virtual comrade in WoW - he answered: No, fuck that, no money their, how we could make enough gold to get a good hourly rate he replied. Ok I knew he was pessimistic. So i started to make gold - i bought for low price - created demanded things with my professions - and started to sell only at high market prices - i started to play the ah - my income was sick - i remember that i made just by buying and selling a lot more gold than other people. i started to penetrate and dominate the "bag market" - i created different chars to imitate that the market isnt dominated by one person - so sometimes i bought alll bags in the ah just to put them with 30% more in - and i was very successfull - after i calculated my hourly income i was pretty sure thats it not possible to make enough gold to make a living from, even when you are the best ah trader on the realm.
so i reevualte and started to google for a bot - i found glider - short time after the big banwave hit glider - all my dreams got destroyed after knowing that people started to made money before i knew that bot exists - and also the bot got banwaved
i remember exactly how i was thinking how cool it would be to make an bot army and start making real and big money - i quitted WoW and put my childy dreams beside
2008-2012: I finished school, started to study, played maybe one month per year WoW - just to see new content and to burn some time
2012(heard from HB)
i heard from MOP coming out - Wow sick - new expansion and i got my old password for my account - i started to calculate everything - trying to get exactly daily dollar botting incomes. i said following to me:
- if i could make money with botting - great you didnt wasted your time
- if i couldnt make money with botting - great you tried a childish dream and you got fun by seeing and playing and botting MoP but you failed with making money
It was short time before MoP release. I got only one account and i wasnt willing to invest and start big as beginner. so i botted with 1 account with different profiles and a lot of handplay(bad profiles, no experience at this time).
I made in one month with my first botting account about 200 Euro. I think i learned near everything about HB, WoW economy, bot economy, and other to botting related stuffs(especially in one thing i was really genius: from the first time i pressed the "start" bot-button i knew i have to achieve one big goal: a fully automate , one click, botting system - with every possible step automized - my day plan was like that: 12hours work with WoW botting my 1 account and beside that googling and learning how to write profiles) in less then 3 weeks. i took me about 3 weeks to achieve every important knowledge to start to make money.

cliffs till now:
- dreamed as child making big money with an botting army
- learned in short time great profile writing
- learned what should be the main goal: not the biggest $$$ is important!!!! important is to get an fully automated botting system with near zero handplay - i always knew: handplay means lowering my hourly rate - if my hourly rate is shitty low than i am risking my time to learn something which doesnt have an real worth
- made in first month of botting one account: 200 Euro

After i made my first 200 Euro i expanded to 5 Accounts ( my first account, and 4 new accounts - all druids )
In the second month i was better in everything i was not good in the first month. Less Handplay, more money, started to write really good profiles(at this stage i got about 70% of ALL things automated - with ALL i mean ALL - computer starts - resting - gold sending ............ of the overall work 70% got done by my settings and scripts
After leveling the 4 new accounts, i geared them and sent them to work. at this time i was botting 5 Accounts 24/7
I made in the second month about 800 Euro.
Third month was the most importing and interesting part of the story - i didnt expand my bot army because i didnt got no bot slots more left - i bought a new pc(2k from my bot earning).
at this stage i got some money left. the third month was sick, - was it really so easy to make 1,5k a month with doing nothing , i asked myself.
in the third month i did new profiles. one was a 99% afk grinding profile with ZERO; REALLY ZERO; REALLY I AM NOT TROLLING; ZERO HANDPLAY - i managed to get that - i took a lot of time and a lot of work to create such a questing profile(questing mode / grinding profile). if i think exactly about this profile i remember only one problem where i got to handplay: black screen when trying to fly to the MOP flying ship to pandaria)
Fourth Month was the greatest: i took all money left and start to expand as fast and as much as possible.
Two things was great:
- through my special 100% AFK profile it was easy to level a lot of toons without to have to handplay -
- i got an special professionbuddy profile which costs me a lot of time( i managed to get near 300NPH with ALL of my farmers - its maybe one of the best herb profiles of all time /// and i wrote an automated inscription learning profile )
1 + 1 = 2
i leveled with my automated leveling profile all professions(Increptions; Herbalism) with an real time investment of maybe 1hour handplay to get from 1 to 90. my profile did end in pandaria in front of the flight master. i just then bought the flying licence and emptied my bags. and then: i started my second profile: PB profile with those features: herbalism my 300NPH route - till amount x - then go to y - inscreption z - create shoulders as much as possible - sell to vendor - some random flying to guild bang - deposite guild bank the income and let amount x in the bags - go to a safespot - REPEAT
with those two profiles i was able to expand my buisness in a short time(<4 months) and starting to make big $$$$.
as you can see i achieved two main goals:
- get an near 100% fully automated system(i think i did bot 99% unmonitored ; and 1% handwork; now handplay! handwork = all related to botting buisness, also all not ingame activities)
- starting to make big$$$

fourth month i dont remember the income. but it was good money. 3-6k.
i got to the highest point, the mount everest, my zenit:

5 Month:
Bot Accounts: 34 farmers near 24/7 my 100% AFK [PB] profile
Income: over 10k $$$


i will shorter up my story - you can just ask anything you want - i think i will watch in next days/2 weeks sometimes hear and answer maybe some questions.

After making the first time in my life 10k and that with near zero time investment i got a strange feeling: i asked myself: is this really reality? is it so easy? in 5 months to make about 20k, go beside the "botting work" successfully to unversity - did i achieved something? Was i lucky? And Fuck man, what to do with 10k every month i also asked myself.
but then it started - one account after other got banned - it went fast - in 3 weeks i lost the whole bot army. i got a lot of money back to reinvest. i did so. but all went wrong. first of all i started to hate to bot. there are always problems, you are scared to get banned, people try to scam you, gold price is not constant, everything went shittier.....
i calculated that every 2-3 months every account will get banned - but what i didnt expect that blizzard changed their strategy: they stopped to let people run 24/7 bots , they stopped to make people easy to farm nodes. but i didnt want to start from 0 bots. i reinvested huge. instant 30 accounts - i thought it isnt possible that i will get fucked up.
short story:

i losed about 2k in battlechests and others keys just to figure out blizzards banning strategy. and i got an instruction from another botter how to bot safier(he sent me the instruction how to mask with VPS your IP , using like a *****,----> lost 1k listening to him, to discover another banning strategy - automated VPS/*****shit detection - not important if public or private - if you use VPS incorrectly you will get WoW banned from time to time and it took them max. two weeks to ban you)
after my investems, and losing 3k $$$, and investing tons of times, creating/buying emails/filling out registration formulars/changed login/entering my new password and accountnames i said to me:
its time to stop and start again when i got again time. i studied beside my botting army - i always put 60% of my work time in my study and 20% of my time in WoW botting/increasing my gold income and the other 20% on different projectes

2013 i quited WoW botting after losing 3k $$$ and getting ban hammered from time to time ( i think i made overall pure 12k $$$ + sick pc gear)
2014 i started other botting projects, it took me about 4 months of work and about 1k $$$$ to figure out: No game was really worth of botting expect than WoW(not because of the game itself - its because HB - i thank to HB to create the first public bot, with which you are able to create an 99,9% fully automated botting system - NO BOT in no other game is on the level of HB - the differece is so huge, its unbelievable - its like that HB is in the year 2024)

and now my final conclusions:
now in august 2014 - i took today the time to say goodbye. the reasion i wrote this was first to help others, to thank honorbuddy, and to close a door in my life. i was always pretty sure that if i cant make in reallife good money , i will get back to WoW and start again. but no. i am saying goodbye. i started today to clean my pc from old files. and i found a file which i wanted to upload public[ its a famous profile creator from this forum, which is from the character a greedy guy, which did betray me - not for big money - but the kind he explained me why he will not create me 3 private profiles, which he promised and which i did payed in combination with other profiles. i got a private profile package in worth of 300 dollar which i wanted to upload and destroy his market - but then i said to me: no i dont want to harm the other peoples which bought also the private profile package - so i decided: no i wont upload it public for free, i will say goodbye and mention some things i learned.

my final conclusions:
PROS of my 5 months of being an bot army operator:
+ easy money, when done right
+ sick feeling, knowing that you earned in one month money, people work 8 months for
+ great to see how i developed a 30% afk system to an 99% afk system

CONS:
- no future: botting will not have a guaranted future - people from industry countries like me, will always have competion from poor countries
- unstable: gold price is unstable; the market is not as stable as you want to invest your whole time in botting and maybe get one day without work and without an education in reallife
- illusion: stories like mine are not the general case. its also highly doubtable that you could achieve making 10k - i RECOMMEND everybody not to think to start being an professional botters - you should always try to have good chances in reallife - if you make online money then continua, its great but Reallife is more important: watch out for school/university/other goods chances - dont get the illusion that botting is easy money - its easy money, when done right - but honestly: ask yourself: are you able to create an fully automate system - if you are unsure then you should be realistic. it took me 2 months to be an professional/expert - but i am greedy - i am so greedy that sometimes i couldt sleep because i was writing profiles. my biggest profile writing sessions was about 20hours long. i am not greedy on money - i am greedy on perfection
- being alone - i got about 1000 + skype contatcs after short time - i was in a circle of ten botters - we helped each other and writed a lot, but online and reallife work is really different - after time of my online friends/work/corporations i compared them to my offline friends/work/corporations and i got the conclusion that beeing 50-80hours a week in your flat and working on the perfection of botting will damage your healthiness in different ways: you are really tired, if you study beside you will need 1-3 hours more sleep a night, because botting is an highly brain activity - it makes you tired / also your eyes will me damaged because of being whole time in front of PC / i turned sometimes the tv on just to hear some voices, because i felt so alone[dont misunderstand me: i got really great friends, and a great social life, but i changed since i started with botting: i wanted to create my bot army, and expand, i dreamed of having about 100 running bots, if i didnt got bannhamered after the 5 month, i would have from my calcuations in the 7 month, about 150 bots - 150 was my goal the whole time, because from my calculations, after 80bots you got more and more problems with selling the gold - so with setting the goal so high(150 bots sound a lil bit crazy - also if you consider that with my profile that would mean monthly income from 50k+++) i got no more time left to see my friends or doing other things. i just wanted to get as big as possible and as rich as possible, because i was pretty sure that i cant calculate that i will have 3 years 150 bots - i just wanted to make as much money as possible and quit then
- unsecurity: i got fucked my the new detection methods. its easy possible that one day no bot will be safe anymore

i rised, because: i was greedy - i wanted to fullfill a child dream - i was greedy to be the best and to rise as fast as possible
i falled, because: i got too greedy - i wanted it too fast - i didnt want to wait and to evualate the situations - i did put money after money just to get back to old bot count - that was that what ruined myself ( i am happy about that , i am pretty sure, that if i continued with botting succesfull, that something bad would happen to me - i think it would be health related )

three big conclusions for you and your life and your bot economy:
- concentrate on your reallife / making money with no work just by pressing start button is fine, but think of your future / also dont try like a maniac to get a bot army like me - it will harm and damage you , trust me

- dont trust online ( just short: i was never scammed really. as above mentioned i got betrayed, not scammed - and i was betrayed by an extreme reputative guy - hes just an asshole i think! be sure to get maximal security with gold - WoW is played by a lot of children - children dont think like older people / i think the scam problem is linked to the young people playing WoW, which dont recognize what it means to scam somebody

- dont get greedy - my fall is an example how greediness to success can end: if i did slow down and just waited some weeks and created only some test accounts i could easily safe 2k and quit after that if I couldnt beat blizzard bansystem - or for example i could also just wait and do nothing - but i want as fast as possible to 150 - thats the reason i falled - i am pretty sure that i could figure out again their system, but one think i learned from my observations:


the whole anti ban strategy which was invented back in 2013 was against big farmers and not the hobby players which bot only sometimes. all their methods of bannings was just the hit the big players in the bot economy.

thats one thing you got to consider always: if you go big, you will also be hunted big


thanks and goodbye

 

Read it all, loved it all.
GoodBye and farewell my fellow botter, you will always be one of us. *waves as you walk into the sunlight while crying*

 

nice read, thanks for the share and i wish you luck in whatever ur next goal will be.

 

I bet you will be successful in every endeavor in life with the educated approach you used here ..Good luck Buddy

 

Anyone else calling Shennanigans?

 

Shennanigans.

Where is razer when we need him?

 

Good luck an take care man! Very interesting post!

And i don't think anyone would write such a detailed post of shenanigans.

 

Wow, amazing read. Thanks for that.

 

Great read, ignore the forum trolls. Its defiantly achievable, as I've made quite a bit myself (Not quite as much on WoW as I've wanted) but none the less, great story!

 

Holy shit cool story, wish I was on that level! (or not, dont want to be hunted down like that lol)

 

Love it, thanks for the story pal, good luck!

 

Loved the story. Good luck in the future.

PEACE

 

Well played sir, this is indeed possible peoples think outside the box

 

Probably is Razer


just read through it all, with the grammar skills this dude possesses.. there's no way in hell he'd be able to pull that off

besides, stuff like;
"creating/buying emails/filling out registration formulars/changed login/entering my new password and accountnames i said to me"

who even does that, use a provider that doesn't require you to fill in forms..

 

Grammar is not that important in real life and has no connection with business at all, especially if it's a second language... Infact a lot of the most famous business minds in the world are dyslexic, Richard Branson for example, CEO of Virgin....

 

Good job, if it's all true then you were very smart at the age of 16 already. Good Luck!

 

cool story, bro

 

sell ur pro profile u will make ton more money then farming and get ban wtb succes story from millz/tuanha

 

Wall of Text that is worth to read!

 

you, sir, are going places! with your ability to motivate yourself and setting goals, you will have an amazing future. thanks for the share and have fun on whatever you are doing next...