The most important thing is to get that singletarget heal prio in order. When that is sorted we can look at better beacon placement. We will be saving a lot of mana, shifting beacon when a player needs direct heals and the heal that is available, is a nonstacked flash heal. 1560mana that is. Or if a ppl gets targeted/debuffed. Then we need to shift one of the beacons to that ppl. In all other cases we can likely get away with beaconing the tanks. The selfless healer build allows for some insane synergy, where we will have either stacked flashheals that will be cheaper and faster and more effective, or cheap and fast holy light heals with IoL procs. And two beacons benefitting from those fast empowered heals. Using the procced IoL holy lights we gain time to get more selfless healer stacks. Thus we are likely to shift between procced Holy lights and stacked flash of lights. We save all holy powers for LoD thus getting the max out of our aoe heals every time. Yes, word of glory is out. With the flash heal glyph we gain even more from the empowered flash heals. Which will also add to the illuminated shields. But everything builds on the prio of selfless healer stacked flash heals and procced IoL holy lights. And giving judgement top prio. It would be a nice filler to cast LoD everytime we have 3 holy powers. When we dont word of glory we will have all the holy powers we need When Judgement is on cd and no single target is in need of direct healing we can utilize the time and heal ahead, building illuminated shields with LoD. We will ofc. also heal the beacons with that LoD. So Holy Light is no longer the go to filler. It is now linked to IoL procs, and LoD is the new filler cast.
Not gonna lie, I love how this CR tanks but when it comes to Ret DPS its very very very VERY lacking in DPS compared to your other CRs -.-
Hi Tuanha! Merry Christmas my friend! Can we expect a new code for Holy Paladin as a gift? Rev 51 it's OK for Ret (not perfect like you can do, but it's ok) Now my friend... for Holy Spec... it's completely broken. So, I have to use two folders, one for Rev 46 for Holy and another Rev 51 for Ret. I'll not post another log because you know these problems and must be tired of these logs. I guess our paladin CR needs some love. Peace!
Oh, I was looking at getting it but after what you have said about ret, ill pass for now. Just using the free version for now, so that will have to do. Just wish it had a setting for sacred shield instead of it having to be cast manually.
Tuanha has to improve many CRs at once. I mainly use the Rogue Routine at the moment and it's getting improved since few days I hope Paladin will follow. Please stay patient. EDIT: I really recommend to buy this routine especially if you want to be a PvP God. And of course is this Routine also pretty good in PvE.
1. Do you see any obvious mistakes the routine makes? 2. Which Tier 5 and Tier 7 Talents do you selected? For me ret pally in PvE works very good, always in top 3-4 dps in heroic mode.
Hi Natiruts, Hi guys, I know Holy is not as cool as Ret atm, and I'm still trying to make it work better than MoP version. I think we will have new Holy update this weekend. Christmas partly distract me a bit, my apology
For anyone having issues, running good enough here to down 6/7 Mythic using your Holy CR, but running Rev. 46. Really smooth, only a few bugs, but manageable.
im pulling 60k HPS on mythic butcher, cant wait for this update Would love if it could be more agressive, right now it will still heal the tank to stack illuminated healing, but if there was an option for doing denounce when everyone is full HP, that would be awesome
I'm usally Prot/Holy but I went Prot/Ret for faster lvling. My ilvl is 567 and for ret and 572 for Prot. With my other toons that I have been lvling (90 to 100) there all around the same ilvl but DESTROY everything it touches. Like my rogue doing 50-60% of the entire groups damage in a 5man dung.....but with ret its no where near that, it actually loses to people that are a much lower ilvl than what my ret set is. But when I tank I destroy everything and can solo slag mines as a prot pally. Tier 5 I used HA and for tier 7 I use nothing since Im not lvl 100 yet. I can stream my DPS on other toons vs the pallys DK as well if you like to see the major difference in damage output
Nice site mr. Hammer But they are using the inferior EF build and in one last case the other inferior build SS. The build I stated i.e. the selfless healer is superior both in mana and in healing power. But it comes at a price of being a lot harder to manage. It is understood that we are trying to find the perfect balance of hps, mps, potential for burst healing, and since we are paladins, ways to build illuminated shields. If The single target healing gets prio as I suggested, The judgement gets top prio, Holy Light only gets to be cast on IoL proc Holy powers are used only on LoD. LoD gets to be the new filler cast. we will achieve that.
I can ensure you once you have better gear you make more than solid dps, furthermore better use SW as t5 talent
