64bit honorbuddy instead of 32bit.

Sharing an opinion is not demanding to close the thread over and over and over.

 

I was not demanding I was trolling are you new to the Internet ?

 

You said it your self, you were not giving any form of an opinion. Can you please stop and let the people be? You do know what you are doing is against the rules on the forum and can result in an infraction?

 

Please keep the discourse civil.
Otherwise, we will be forced to close this thread.

cj

 

Prediction? locked soon

 

I'm sowwy

 

(I know people dont like to read back post, gonna post it again since it has good info for people that suffer with low FPS)

Now saying that....I mainly raid and use the CR for that, I don't use the bot to farm, make gold, lvl or anything else of that nature. I've also said this on other threads, but if you have low FPS that is not HB's fault...that is actually yours. 90% of the time the FPS is due to having recount/skada turned on. Sure its great to see your numbers and how good you are doing, or if your the type that likes to let your Epen fly but lets get real folks. That addon is a MEMORY HOG! Turning that off and your FPS will skyrocket. There are other addons out there that also factor in for the low FPS. You should really turn off all your addons other than BDM/Bigwigs and UI changes. You have no need for Silver Dragon, NPC Scan, Tom Tom, Achivement trackers, Altoholic, and other such things that have no factor in Raid. You should invest the time into an addon called Addon Control Panel, this lets you turn on and off addons with in the game and no need to logg out and back in. You can also set profiles and have one called In Raid addons that has have everything turned off but what is actually NEEDED for raid, and one called out of raid that turns on all the other shit. I promise you that your FPS will go up.

Second, this is to the HB staff. There are a lot of people asking for a 64bit version of HB, sure it could take a lot of time but look at the other options that you can use to make it smoother. Someone suggested making it ONLY for the folks that raid, others suggested paying more. I suggest doing the same format as the other bots out there are doing and make it a subscription base per month. Increase the price of that subscription per session if you like as well to make even more money. But again thats if you want to, and I know there are other reasons not to make a 64bit and I'm about to say a major one next.

Third...to all the people that are demanding a 64bit version of HB. You do realize that it will take a lot of work for the HB to pull that off....not only the HB team but not once have I seen ANYONE say ANYTHING about how hard it would be for all the devs out there that would have to re-code EVERYTHING they done to work in 64bit as well. Just because HB releases a 64bit does not mean everything you love about using in HB, let it be lvling profiles, farms, CRs what have you, they ALSO have to be recoded to work. That is a LOT of down time for a TON of people. So you have to keep them in mind as well. Some might not even want to put forth the effort into it. You have to take into account there feelings on the matter as well.

What I suggest is to take a few polls. See how many people would actually want a 64 bit, how many would be willing to pay for it, and another poll for Dev's only to see if there willing to put in the time to even make there products work on the 64bit version.

 

Anyway just to let u know again it's not going to happen and do have a wonderful day love gavzter

 

Hi...

No matter how you're gonna flip and turn this 64 bit WOW will perform better.

32-bit "wow" are limited to 3GB RAM and 512MB vRAM. No matter how much RAM you have installed no matter how new you're graphic card is.
So if you're running "wow" at 32-Bit and have a total ammount of 32GB RAM and 6GB vRAM installed in you're pc,
"wow" (32-bit) can only use 3GB RAM of those 32GB and 512MB vRAM.
64-Bit don't have this limitation.... (smiple)

Going from 32-bit to 64-bit is a lot like expanding a four-lane highway to an eight-lane highway.
The speed limit will be the same. 64-bit isn't "faster" than 32-bit.
But you can have a LOT more bandwidth traffic in the lanes at the same time.

So in a game like WoW where you're playing for extended periods of time, loading up hundreds of players on-screen when you're in a major city / raid or BG, all of those textures and date are loaded into RAM and vRAM.
If there's more than 2048MB of textures on-screen, the computer will constantly be "paging out" all those textures to a secondary RAM cache.
Then that's going back on the hard drive to swap (corse of the 32-bit build), which is infinitely slower than RAM itself.
This is what causes the game to stutter when you're moving around, causing the game to load new textures into RAM, and offload so it's not showing at the moment (delay).

In other words. i prefer 64-bit for gaming.


But... hehe. Is it passeble to create a vote.
just to see people's opinion ?

 

I vote 64-bit, for sure!

And I'm willing to pay for a 64-bit version.

 

Count me out! I am not willing to pay $50 per month for a 64bit client, and I am not willing to wait an extra week every time there is a significant patch while I wait for either 64bit or 32bit client to be updated first. I can just imagine all of the complaining by those that have to wait longer for their particular client to be updated.

 

Kind of a contradiction here i think. Asking if there will be a x64 version in the future and saying nope, then saying no plans atm. Things change so there COULD be a x64 version in the future, just not the near future

 

There is a really simple answer to this discussion, and I don't see why people are so ignorant. There is absolutely no reason to code Honorbuddy for 64bit it does not affect anything beside a slight performance increase, which is marginal. Besides Bosslands has stated over and over again that they will never change to 64bit unless WoW itself can only run in 64bit. So there really is no point in discussing this further.

 

This +1. 64bit honorbuddy would be a brand new platform. It would be like trying to play xbox 360 games/plugins/profiles on an xbox one. Everything would have to be redone.

 

That is worst reply to some topic that I saw in my life.

 

I am not sure what the problem is? no one was asking them to abandon the 32bit version or even asking for the 64bit tomorrow or next week just that, that it could become a possibility. Not to mention that they would be willing to pay for it as a separate program. It could be something that they could work towards as a long term project.

 

Even if HB 64bit isnt necessary as of right now, it would be a good idea for the HB devs to at least start work on the 64 bit version as a contingency plan. If blizzard suddenly starts to counter 32 bit. Might not be this year or next but if people are still playing this game, next expansion i doubt will support 32bit.

 

If you really want a 64bit honorbuddy, go reverse engineer the 64bit client and interpret all of the memory processes for everything. then hit me up.

 

If it comes to the point of Blizzard no longer offering a 32bit client they will announce it with a large margin of time beforehand.

 

Well I just started using HB a few weeks ago, and I have seen a lot of talk about users wanting 64bit. So I decided to read through about 8 pages of this thread, and I still can't understand what the big problem is?

I understand that running 64bit means better performance, and pretty much every PC now a days runs 64bit. But how much would we really benefit from it? People are complaining how this 32bit HB makes them lag and have FPS drop... but I've literally never experienced an FPS drop? I run HB for AFK questing, and I use it for combat routines where I am in control in Arenas/BGs. I don't think I've ever experienced any lag or FPS drop? Nothing that I noticed, or nothing major enough for me to complain about? Are you guys running WoW+HB on calculators or what? I've ran WoW on High/Ultra settings on 64bit for years now, and I didn't really notice a huge enough difference for anything to complain about? My only worry is security. I highly doubt Blizzard is going to flag you for running WoW in 32bit, as I am sure there are plenty of legit users whom are playing WoW in 32bit. But it is still something to worry about.

And another note... I am currently a Computer Science major, and since I have started into the CS major at my University, my outlook on programs/apps/updates/coding has changed a lot. Programming is NOT easy. Debugging is NOT easy. It takes a lot of time, and a lot of hard work. Unless the HB staff is feeding you a line of bs about how tough it would be to convert their 32bit client to 64bit, it is NOT going to be easy whatsoever. I realize many of you complaining have never touched a line of code, or written anything over 100 lines of code. But one thing you need to start realizing, is that programming/debugging isn't easy and takes a lot of time and skill.

So with all of this being said, I am not against the idea of 64bit HB at all. I would love to have the ability to run 64bit as that is the more modern/better thing to run on, as well as if it is a bit more secure, then by all means; I want to be as secure as possible while botting as I do bot on my own personal account that I've had for years. And if you would want to know, I would definitely be willing to pay a little bit more on top of my license for 64bit compatibility. BUT... with this whole lawsuit thing on the horizon with Blizzard, I highly highly doubt the HB staff has any desire to re-code HB entirely to support 64bit. We all know what happens when multibillion-dollar companies go after smaller companies.

Now what I would really like to see is more effort put into some new and useful plugins, botbases, profiles coded up by the HB staff themselves. $5 or less isn't too bad, but constantly having to dish out 20+ euros to random coders for a plugin that has one purpose, starts to add up, and gets quite annoying.

-Optimiztix