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    Discussion in 'Discussions (no Ban Reports here)' started by aardvarken, Jun 7, 2015.

    1. aardvarken

      aardvarken New Member

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      I've been thinking about holding a little experiment.

      Keep HB on, active and attached to wow. But not actually let it do anything (like a pauzed CR).

      Was wondering if anyone has done something like this already. I'm curious to know if I will get banned (got a burned account I can sacrifice if needed). Would clear up wether Blizzard does server or client side detection.
       
    2. Morga

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      When I was using HB and got my 6month ban I often stopped the bot, though still attached, and did everything manually. I used the bot for some of the difficult quest or just when I needed a break from manually leveling. I'm going to guess as long as it is hooked into WoW, you will risk a ban. Of course just a guess. If you want more details just let me know.
       
    3. Pierlala

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      I was the same like you. I used the bot mainly for leveling alts and sometimes boring chores like Garrison (not even daily). I did the rest by hand. PvP, LFR (since I don't have the time to actively raid). I did it all by hand. I just turn on a CR sometimes when I was in LFR and my child started to cry in bed and I had to go AFK or something. I was more playing manually then actual botting.
       
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      ah you say if your account is expired and you got banned afterwards with that account there would be a banned sign on it?
       
    5. klepp0906

      klepp0906 Banned

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      Still running with hb attached? This has the potential to be valuable but I'm sure you gave up or interceded already.
       
    6. Zardoz1

      Zardoz1 New Member

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      I have 5 Accounts and bottet 5 man dungeons, but stopped in March and unsubbed. Then I came back with ONE Account, which was banned (6 month). HereĀ“s a pic. Bilder-Upload - Kostenlos Fotos hochladen und ins Netz stellen
       
    7. aardvarken

      aardvarken New Member

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      Quick update: put in about 50 hours of manual play time with HB attached. No ban yet. Will keep you posted in another 50 hrs or so.
       
    8. Pierlala

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      I think the only way to be fuly certain is when the next banwave hits HB.
       
    9. aardvarken

      aardvarken New Member

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      Update:

      Got my email this morning. Perma-ban for third party software.

      Believe what you want. I'd be worried.

      Note: The bot was only attached, and performed no actions.
       
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      Very interesting. Thank you for performing this experiment.

      Were you botting any other accounts at the same time?
       
    11. Morga

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      We kind of figured they were detecting hb even if it was just attached. They may not be able to actually see what the bot is doing, only that it is attached to wow. :(
       
    12. pimpampum

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      Interesting, and worrying in fact.

      It is taking quite long for some of the blindfold defenders to come to this thread and tell it's a fake report or something along those lines.
       
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      2critzu New Member

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      Fanbois, wherefore art thou fanbois
       
    14. Raaz

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      Pics or it didn't happen. I don't believe everything on the internet.
       
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      Zero pics, not even of the alleged ban email. We only have his word that he just attached, never used the bot.

      Nevertheless, since nobody's going to video and upload 50+ hours or whatever amount he played before getting banned, and nobody's going to watch all of it, it's pretty much a worthless experiment, as nobody can prove anything.
       
    16. Jadax

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      I guess the important thing here is to know if you were banned before - if so, then Blizz could be tracking you via IP/MAC.

      On the other hand, if you were never banned before then that means Blizz can definitely detect HB, which would mean everyone using HB is detected - which isn't the case since some people haven't been banned.
       
    17. pimpampum

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      I find it amusing that you consider Blizzard would neccesarily ban everyone they detected. Are they compelled to?

      I guess we can agree an overwhelming majority got banned not so long ago. And I don't really think they had just 1 proof of every botter; they made a number of passes, and when X account is found on 2 or more, it could have gotten flagged for ban.

      Your reasoning behind some people not being banned is "Hb is not detected", without really knowing how the detection process works. That's assuming a lot, really.

      Beyond that, why some people (maybe not you) consider false reports any ban report, like this or that, yet they consider all "I'm not banned" reports true, even when being quite a minority?

      When I read some of these reports , "I haven't been banned and I've been botting since glider", and somehow that same user starts acknowledging a couple posts later they didn't have an active suscription since January.....

      white knightning, or entitled loyalty to Hb, do not help us, you or Bossland.

      You wanna help them? Get 30 licenses. I guess That they would really apprecciate that more than irrational defenses.
       
    18. aardvarken

      aardvarken New Member

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      I have been banned in the past. However this ran on a separate blizzard account and a separate computer. I have a dynamic IP here, so there is no IP link.
       
    19. Zardoz1

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      Hmm the link could be the mac adress of your router.
       
    20. kekic91

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      Just found out for this thread,while i writed exact same experiment opinion in new thread and i got all negative posts from member,thank u for proving my theory !
       

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