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Discussion in 'Success Stories' started by shiky, Dec 9, 2016.

  1. shiky

    shiky Member

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    Hi there.

    PC Config:

    fx-8350@4.7
    16GB DDR3
    GTX 670
    SSD 256GB

    Botting Config:
    18xBots (1RU, 1EU, 16US)
    Top servers from realmpop.com
    Running 9/9 for 11hrs each pack
    Starlight paid profile
    HBRelog, Sky Golem, herb chant, manual AH trading

    Costs:
    1030$
    and 367$ for 6 banned accounts between banwaves
    5.6% comission from China buyer to my russian paypal account (quite annoying)


    $/day:
    With average market price (0.09$/1k) ~7.5$ per 1 US bot

    Money target:
    As much as possible!

    feel free to give me any advice
     
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  2. DocTalbuk

    DocTalbuk Community Developer

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    Good luck man.
    Just wondering tho, are u running all 18 bots at the same time?
    It seems impossible on 16gb RAM. Also the gfx card is a bit overkill i thhihnk.
    With top servers u mean the highest pop servers?

    the 0.09 u getting for your gold is instant, demand or private?
     
  3. shiky

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    9 bots for day, 9 for night, as i told above. 0.09 for bulk trade with chinese buyer. And yes, most popular servers.
     
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    Dam, US servers got nice prices.
     
  5. pimpampum

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    0,09 ?? right now, on most popular servers, the average is half of that.

    Don't want to discourage you from that, but there's a few things you should implement in your numbers:

    * Electric cost

    * Maintenance ( including AH handling. A lot of people does well enough with 1 realm AH and think that they know the deal...you cannot market control 18 realms as you can with 1 realm. Not on the realm of possibility.)

    * I assume you expect to receive a payment for your personal work in this , which won't be 2 or 3 hours a day. With 18 bots, a good assumption would be that you'll require 5-6 hours at the very least.

    * Do you know and have trust in your specific middleman, and have an agreement with him? Else, you could perfectly be facing a situation where, whenever you want to unload, they'll greet you with " Sorry but gold price has decreased to 0.04$ per k". That's common, unfortunately....

    According to your current numbers, You would need to recover aprox. 1500 $ to reach your Return of Investment.

    It's great that you include the cost of past botting accounts in the mix; even though they are unrelated, this can be used as a safety amount to cover for unexpected events, ban situations, honorbuddy's off-days, patch days, computer issues, etc

    Let's make this calculation with the 0.09 per k that you provided, even though that's extremely unrealistic.

    7,5 $ per US bot per day x 18= 135 $ per day.

    So you would need 12 days for RoI without considering all the points above or your personal retribution for the work, and with a very optimistic gold price target. Sol, let's say 20-30 days in a more realistic enviroment.


    It's possible, but unlikely, that your accounts would last that long. Consider that, the reason that you ain't seeing gathering ban reports often is not that they are not happening, but more like a gatherer is unlikely to keep posting ban reports after a while. After all, there's no clear benefit in it for them.

    And you better have a good plan once Blizz's eye catches you. It is to be expected, eventually. That'a a gamechanger...
     
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  6. shiky

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    Zul'jin (H) - USD0.085/K
    Illidan (H) - USD0.11/K
    Tichondrius (H) - USD0.11/K
    Mal'Ganis (H) - USD0.085/K
    Area 52 (H) - USD0.085/K
    Sargeras (A) - USD0.085/K
    *today info from skype

    For my 350W (125W+ CPU, 170W max GPU) system i have this calculations:
    0.35kW*24hrs*0.045$ = 0.378$/day

    Bots running from 23 or 24.11 and soon they will pay for themselves.

    I spend ~5min for bot to trade everyday on AH and ~3min to trade with my buyer.

    Any other questions? :)
     
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  7. pimpampum

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    hah, you seem very confident, which is good.

    Lots of people start like that, and when the weariness and the real facts start overcoming ideal conditions, most quit.

    It just don't work like that...there are hundreds of factors that you cannot easily foretell.

    But if it works for you, excellent! hopefully it will; In the end, there's few people with the strength of will you'll need when things turned bad.
     
  8. Frizbick

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    Actually i'm selling gold on my own for $0.15-$0.2 in EU. and btw guys do you pay income taxes?
     
  9. Applebudya

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    And people wonder why Bliz is targeting botters..
     
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    Because blizzard stance at the moment is against every kind of botting? Including CR only? Hence the banwave targeted to everyone?
     
  11. Anarki

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    Keep in mind that realmpop.com doesn't track individual realms, it tracks connected realms. For example Neptulon, Darksorrow and Genjuros are all connected, and according to realmpop.com all have exact same amount of players. It doesn't really matter since they are connected so you can trade to other players, but it's something to keep in mind since the realm you intend to sell on might not really be high pop because the other connected realm(s) is making the difference.
     
  12. twitch83

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    CR is worst for blizz. Gold farmer is not that big deal. CR rly affect game.
     
  13. shiky

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    got error on 2 of 18 bots :/
    Error attaching Honorbuddy to WoW! - System.Xml.XmlException

    Solution:

    Go into your HB Folder and delete the following forders: "Settings --> Your realm --> Your not working Charakter" and every item in "Cache"

    Then start the bot and everything is nice
     
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  14. blewsclewsnews

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    That's some crazy, backwards logic...
     
  15. twitch83

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    Gold has not that big incidence on competition between players. But CR does.
    But in the end they are both bad for wow.
     
  16. Kain85

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    Botting US with EU mac and ip? You are a brave man.
     
  17. shiky

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    while you're in doubt, i make my money
     
  18. Anarki

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    I would love to see proof.
     
  19. shiky

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    $100 and i will give all paypal transactions with china buyer.
     
  20. Anarki

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    I call bullshit.
     

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