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    1. bossland

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      Greetings Buddies,

      this week we have sent our lawsuit to the court of Leipzig. We have sued Blizzard to stop using Honorbuddy and Demonbuddy.

      Honorbuddy and Demonbuddy are bots that automate WOW and D3. Blizzard sued me personally and as CEO in the court of Leipzig to stop using WOW and D3. Using means, to load it into RAM, to display it on any Monitor or Device and to save it on any harddisk. The court of Leipzig found it to be true that WOW and D3 are only ment to be used for personal usage.

      Now we find, since WOW and D3 are ment to be used ONLY for privat use, the court made clear there is no ecxeption, following that logic Honorbuddy and Demonbuddy can only be for privat use too.

      Months ago we withdraw Blizzard any licences they had with. We forbid them to use Honorbuddy and Demonbuddy in front of the court of Leipzig.

      But not a month after, Blizzard started a big banwave and you know the rest. In court Blizzard also presented how they used Honorbuddy with Cheatengine. They were directly harming our intellectual property rights. We say enough is enough! If we find out that Blizzard uses Honorbuddy/Demonbuddy again - we will ask the court to put a fine on them for up to 250.000 EUR, and if not paid alternativelly up to 6 months jail for the man in charge. Stay tuned - we assume that the court will soon appoint a hearing, probably September - October.


      The Federal Court of Justice of Germany, sent us its bill. This means that our very first case that found place in Hamburg, will soon be heared there. Our Court of Justice Lawyer already wrote his statement and the case looks strong from what i can tell. We expect a hearing and a decision somewhere in 2016. However, we have 2 more cases that just where decided by the Courts of Appeal in Dresden and Munich, that we will push to the next step: The Federal Court of Justice of Germany

      All in all the last 2 months where very surprising. First we won vs Blizzard in Hamburg, then we lost vs the Banhammer, then we had 3 more court cases in 3 weeks and now it is all over for the moment.

      Time to analyze things and look to the future. From what i can tell Blizzard is at the end of its patience. As higher we go, the more we win. It seems like they already see what will happen, once we are at the The Federal Court of Justice of Germany, and try with all might to stop us before we reach it.

      They suceeded with Glider and with PoketGnome, but we will not fall as easily. Especially that all the latest decisions of the European Court of Justice teld to help us. On the other side, we have informed us heavily before we picked up our The Federal Court of Justice Lawyer. At the moment there are only 45 Lawyers that can represent a party there. So even if until now Blizzard with its lawfirms with 100s of lawyers had the power to flood us with a lot of written nonsense, the The Federal Court of Justice equal firepower rules still count.
       
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    2. biller72

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      hope you win them all
      get emmm
       
    3. EchoTiger

      EchoTiger Official Profile and Singular Developer Staff Member Moderator

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      Haha, I love it.
      Keep the fight strong!
       
    4. stewiethecat

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      good luck
       
    5. xxomen911xx

      xxomen911xx New Member

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      In bossland we trust
       
    6. JulianLOL

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      get emmm :)
       
    7. Xarian

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      What do you love? Am i the only one that reads this as being a negative outcome post, attempting to sound positive?

      They won a lawsuit regarding bossland selling D3 gold, great, that'll be real effective on the honorbuddy case(not really)

      Then bossland clearly states in this thread that he has escalated 3 lawsuits to a higher court, the only reason to escalate is if the lower court decided against Bossland gmbh.

      So in fact, all lawsuits has so far had bad outcomes, bad enough to escalate the cases to higher courts, yet people think this fight is going in a positive direction?.
       
    8. Aion

      Aion Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Have you ever been engaged into a court trial before? (No, watching Law&Order series does not count!)

      If the answer is No, please delete your post above,

      Thanks.
       
    9. pimpampum

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      May you tell us where is he wrong?

      I happen to have been in court much more than what I would have liked, and I can't see where do you find the error.

      Your fanboy to the umpteenth power posts help no one, even you. We all want Bossland to succeed on this, as it would just lead to our benefit.
       
    10. Nociceptor

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      who pays for all this lawyer stuff? this must be soooo expensive, isnt it? I just know, that if you will win against Blizzard, Blizzard will have to pay it, correct? But what if you lose?
       
    11. Croga

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      Where do you read that? There's no mention of Bossland escalating anything, there's no mention of 3 escalated cases at all.

      There's 1 escalated case and Bossland clearly states that he has received the summons for that. Which indicates that the escalation is not of his own doing since it also states that this is about the case Bossland won in Hamburg court.
       
    12. Xarian

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      " However, we have 2 more cases that just where decided by the Courts of Appeal in Dresden and Munich, that we will push to the next step: The Federal Court of Justice of Germany"

      2 cases, that were decided that bossland then escalated. This is not good news.
       
    13. Captshiznit

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      Please tell blizzard irl to go suck a fat dick. Wear a t shirt going ZUK MY DIK BLIZZARD.

      Wankers. They money grub with wod and think anyone should care? gtfo you bunch of f***heads.

      Make a good expansion and improve levelling so I don't feel need to kill myself / bot. I don't bot for gold, pvp, anything like that just levelling an alt.
       
    14. nooblet

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      Epic news. Keep standing strong mate.
       
    15. botsfired

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      Be glad you're being informed.

      If they win, we keep botting.
      If they lose, we'll keep botting with something else or the more industrious of us will write our own and break the cycle.

      Personally, I'm happy at least one firm is taking Blizz on. They've been soaking money out of the player base and ruining lives for years.
       
    16. EdwinOnline

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      amazing how much pressure you guys can deal with, my respect!
       
    17. Aaluvian

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      I hate to be a bearer of bad news but you do realize German court rulings have no standing outside of Germany unless the effected country allows it. Even if Blizzard loses if they were to file a court case in the US they could win there and its r uling applies to all entities within its borders. Hell even if they lose in Germany they could just remove all rights to teh game in Germany and remove all services from the region and as s uch no one in Germany would have the legal right to play the game
       
    18. Filewalker

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      This isn't quite right. Due to Territorial Rulement European States obey rulings in other European Countries and since Blizzard had a Seat in France the France Law System will enforce Blizzard to obey the Ruling. This is why German Customers can sew Blizzard after German Law and Blizzard have to follow. This is exact the same Situation why i always got my Banned Accounts back till today.

      Hope this is understandable, i'm not that fluent in english ;)
       
    19. Aaluvian

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      That will still only apply to the EU which if they were to get prissy enough they could stop service to the EU I don't think they will but that is a option if they don't like the court ruling. Though it would be a public relations nightmare
       
    20. Aion

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      Please, do not share senseless fairy-tale stories. This is too absurd to even worth the comments.
       

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