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    1. Sippinhaterade

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      How would Framelock not being enabled drop one's dps? I dont use framelock and actions are still executed within each global cooldown. I actually have a performance drop when using framelock because of the fps drop.
       
    2. Haggy223

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      I have a... probably a little bit stupid question :)

      But what is the botbase actually doing? I'm moving the char and I'm targeting. And the CC is executing my spells... So for me this looks like there is nothing else to do?
      Of you need a botbase which does nothing.. so that I can move and target. But doing nothing is probably not the only thing Tyrael does right?

      Maybe someone could enlighten me a little bit. Thanks in advance for your help.

      Cheers
      Haggy
       
    3. nomnomnom

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      Tyrael does all the combat for you, so you can focus on other stuff during raids like gettin out of shyt :). Also, im quite confident that tyrael with a good routine does more dps en you can do manually :)

      Pretty technical but even with FPS drop in wow, you WILL perform better with flock on ;). I've explained what flock does a few pages back, might be intresesting to read it :).
      Tyrael is a very agressive botbase, specially with framelock enabled. Unfortunately there are no healer routines known to fully support real framelock. Pure will have it somewhere in the upcoming releases, some new tricks up our sleeves ;). Ill announce here when Pure supports it fully as healer. DPS should be fine though!

      Ill add split keys in the next release, but without modifier is a no for now.


      Glad you got it running smooth, your users will definitely profit from that ;). Just a headsup, next Tyrael release will have the sanitycheck removed as its a routine job. Make sure your routines have that before I take it away.

      @ everyone: If your FPS drops with framelock enabled, this is a problem with the routine. Not with Tyrael :). Its quite complicated to make a routine to be fully framelock compatible, so most of the times the routine author cannot fix it. You can report it, so the routine maker can at least look at it :).
       
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      What that "sanitycheck" :D

      Edit: I know what you mean.

      Code:
      private static bool SanityCheckCombat()
              {
                  return StyxWoW.Me.Combat
                         && !StyxWoW.Me.IsDead;
              }
      
              private static bool SanityCheckPreCombat()
              {
                  return !StyxWoW.Me.Combat
                         && !StyxWoW.Me.IsDead
                         && !StyxWoW.Me.IsGhost
                         && !StyxWoW.Me.IsOnTransport
                         && !StyxWoW.Me.Mounted;
              }
       
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      hi, I've been away for a few days and just read your post, being lefthanded I had the same issue too. I wanted to use was the right CTRL key to pause the rotation without using any other key, so I found the following solution.

      ADD :- hotkeycbo.Items.Add(new CboItem((int)Keys.None, "No Key"));

      to the TyraelInterface.cs file found in (Honorbuddy\Bots\Tyrael\GUI) in the section marked //Pause Key

      this will allow you to select a 'Modifier' and then select 'No Key' on Pause key so only the 'Modifier' will pause/resume the routine, hope this helps.

      Keep up the great work nomnomnom hope you don't mind this post, if you do i'll remove it. As a coder myself I do know how frustrating it can be when others alter your code.
       
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      I'm fine with this workaround, I simply will not add it to Tyrael as it'll bring shytload of issues with users and routines with the same hotkey system --> Many complaints about routines stopping to work afterpressing modifier and such ...
       
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      Could anyone like, make some kind of guide :D ?
      what bot base,
      where to put it, (that's already on the first post so nvm ;D)
      how to load it,
      settings,
      etc ;) would be greatly appriciated :D
       
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      I'm having significant FPS drop when using this botbase. My PC is more than capable of handing this at low graphics so I'm wondering what can be done to fix it?
       
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      handnavi Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      In most cases its caused by the combat Routine you are using. :)
       
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      I've tried using two routines that are both framelock supported, but it doesn't really affect anything. So I jacked it all the way up to 200 TPS and while it lags a little it seems to work fine lol.
       
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      Which routines, class & spec?
       
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      MAD and Pure as a RDruid.
       
    13. nomnomnom

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      Yeah that's a problem. Healing routines are having a very hard time to work properly with Framelock. I know it's being worked on, and Mirabis and Pure will get a solution up and running "soon".
       
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      Awesome. Thanks for the reply.
       
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      Again a question about lazyraider vs Tyrael :)

      Whit Lazyraider im abel to move my char out of voidzones ect whil playing as melee dps, but whit Tyrael im lockt to 1 spot tunneling not been abel to move from stuff on ground ect.

      How to fix this?

      Tyrael also move after a mob there runs away are you abel to disabel this somewhere so I control the movement 100%?
       
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      nomnomnom Well-Known Member

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      You are confused. It's the other way around. The Tyrael Bot does NOT have movement, while LazyRaider does.
       
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      Thanks for the quick respons.

      It im turning Tyrael on a target dummy as melee dps i cant move at all strafe left and right ect. How to fix this?

      And yes it have.. when im turning it on doing some daily quest it will run after the mob if the mob try to run away. (try it if you dont beleve me)
       
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      Tyrael doesnt use RoutineManager.Current.CombatBuffBehavior.
      Is that intentional or just forgotten about?
       
    20. Kata

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      Can someone explain to me how FPS (or TPS) betters or lowers your rotation performance?

      I would just like to understand how this stuff works better.
       
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