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    1. Blade429

      Blade429 New Member

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      Hi Nom,

      Thanks for the routine and for the support. It really is amazing.

      First of i made this account to provide some feedback, so sorry if i don't follow correct etiquette.

      I'm Arms spec, using the Arm's part of the rotation. IIRC my routine is pretty much default configuration. Enyo is set up to disable mouseclick and 35 TPS.

      The first issue I'd like to bring up is the problem with Multi Dot and Rend (On a smaller note, you only need to rend 4 mobs when AoE'ing. Anymore and its a DPS loss generally), it seems to be casting it on minions/minor elites when pulled with packs of mobs. As these die generally too fast, you end up spamming Rend the entire battle until they die. A perfect example of this is the Fire Elementals before Forgemaster Gog'duh, you pull a big fire elemental and 3-4 smaller ones, if the tank pulls more say 2-3 packs (Or the mini gauntlet) you spend most of your fight spamming Rend and since the elemental minions have low health they die fast and it cycles through spamming Rend. One more example is the pack of say 15 non elite spiders in Auchindoun, same issue here. Now i just pause the rotation and AoE like normal, but i was wondering if you could allow us to turn multi dot off or put a blacklist for mobs not to target? Before the B1 patch you did, i could cycle through the targets and the routine would apply rend on targets and then it would start hammering away doing AOE, i personally felt this was a good place for it as you had more control over things.

      The next issue is with the boss Ragewing the Untamed in UBRS, the bot either doesn't work or the routine, (as with a fresh install of HB) you just stand there auto attacking and occasionally using Bloodbath and Storm Bolt. This is mainly when its pressed up against the side of the bridge, as soon as it lands the routine kicks in. Had the same issue with Xelganak in Nagrand, he's a flying rare that is hovering just slightly off the ground.

      The last issue is with Rage pooling, sometimes I'm capped on Rage and its seems to be struggling to spend it. I'm not sure if this is an issue as it could just be my gear has hit the sweet spot for Rage generation.

      Would it at all be possible for you to explain how and when the routine uses Ravager, Bladestorm and Recklessness? I can't seem to find that sweetspot where it'll use it in a predictable manor. For example the last boss in UBRS Warlord Zaela during the first phase you need max DPS, sometimes it uses Recklessness and sometimes not, along with Ravager too. I've also pulled packs of mobs (Say 5) and the routine has decided not to use Bladestorm or Ravager and instead opted to use Rend and Wirlwind, then i pull one mob and it uses Ravager on it. I'm sure this is probably a lack of configuration or understanding on my behalf, so i was hoping you could shed some light on this?

      Again, thanks for this fantastic routine.
       
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    2. clorex

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      Just wanted to ask a question here. I read there was an update, that should have improved the thunderclap logic for all specs (i.e. Deep wound spreading). Been testing glad stance dps right now, still doesn't use clap. I could be wrong and clap could be not effective as glad though. Also, I have a problem with Prot. It will only use clap, if Glad stance talent is taken. Otherwise it just won't clap. Any idead on how I can fix this? (If I can, ofc) I double checked the settings, multi-target dotting is On at all times. :( Please give me some advise\help on that. I did reinstall HB a couple of times, didn't help.
       
    3. Modernn

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      I was using it earlier tonight and it was just fine. It worked pretty consistent for me and was much much better than before.
       
    4. clorex

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      Could it be bot config settings or anything like that? I just did a clean install again and nothing changes. It does good single target dps though. Tried both Tyrael and Enyo. Nothing. Also tried to adjust a hotkey for multi dot aoe. Does nothing too. Would love to see it use thunder clap to spread my deep wounds as glad and see it also use clap with other talents as prot. Thought anger management would be my choise, but I can't tank packs well enough without clap...
       
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    5. bestdamnwarrior

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      @Everyone having probs with Gladiator stance. I'm really puzzled as to why so many people are having problems with the Gladiator Stance routine. I don't have any special settings or configuration and mine seems to be working as well as I can expect it to. I ran another MC raid last night and was typically 5-15k more DPS than everyone else minus a hunter or two here and there. Thunderclap is working as I believe it should, rage management seems to be working as intended. I have yet to experience any other issues other than it being unable to attack some of the worm enemies that come out of the lava which have seen been fixed.

      I strongly recommend those of you who've still been having problems completely delete your existing Honor Buddy folder, download a brand new copy and start fresh. Old settings/configurations could be what's affecting your CC, also try using the CC with all your addons disabled and see if that changes things. Some addons may be causing some problems with the CC.
       
    6. clorex

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      I tried everything except for switching off all the addons. Will try when I wake up tomorrow, thank you.

      Edit: couldn't sleep. Didn't help :( still no thunderclaps in gladiator stance and same problem with protection without the glad stance talent. Reinstalled HB like 20 times this week :)
       
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    7. Tayroo

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      Suggestion #1: Is it possible to increase priority on Sudden Death procs while playing prot (both tank and gladiator)? As it is now it uses it "fairly" quickly, (not instant) when dpsing or tanking a solo mob but as soon as you got multiple adds, the prio is fairly low. Considering the Sudden Death, along with Shield Slam, is our hardest hitting ability and free we should use it instantly.

      Suggestion #2: When queueing an ability through the hotkey tab, such as Shockwave, is it possible to have the queue reset when combat drops? Looks pretty weird to have it queued and then the combat drops and the character pops Shockwave in thin air.
      Such a scenario can happen when the user thinks you have Shockwave up since you thought you had hit 3 enemies before, but in reality you still have 20 sec of cd left. And then it goes off randomly.
       
    8. bestdamnwarrior

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      @clorex - I'm sorry nothing helped my friend. I really don't know what to tell you, thunderclap is working just fine for me.
       
    9. playmelol

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      Ravager hotkey is not working

      Hello,

      I am using a hotkey for Ravager, it only seams to work 20% of the time. (I have the hot keys bound to my razer naga not sure if that is the issue) but all other hotkeys work just fine.

      Here is what I see on my side, I press the hot key > I see the hotkey spam Ravager (1 - 4 times) > Ravager does not cast. I understand that Ravager is a "placed spell meaning I would normally select where to put the spell on the ground.

      Or maybe my tps is to high? I have it set at 30.

      I have attached a log. View attachment 45204 2014-11-27 21.01BB.txt
       
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    10. n00bsteam

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      Hi! can you say me how can i disable begin combat with Charge and heroic leap? thx!
       
    11. CyberElpy

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      Hello, there is very nice routine, but i have one little trouble.
      Do not work (mb for me) with BGBuddy (also tried mixed mode enyo+bgbuddy). In battle my char just going toward target in melee range and keep going into it all time with no using skills.
       
    12. netrick

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      I got this problem for a couple of days now when i engage in dungeons 5+ mobs. Bot just stops working and waiting the CD to use only aoe skills
       

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    13. Dart01902

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      so how does glad stance work, if i swith to it from def stance do i need to restart the bot and routine or does it do it on the fly?
       
    14. Sippinhaterade

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      The stances are generally one in the same. I havent had to restart when popping in and out.

      Is there a difference in normal and developmental rotations?
       
    15. ryftobuddy

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      I downloaded the trial today. 2 things I've noticed so far:

      1. The CR is not using Victory Rush at all.
      2. It won't range pull at all. The CR just sits and spams charge or heroic leap while in Fury with a No Path Available message. It should be using heroic throw to pull mobs out of range.
       
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    16. tombot

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      I am confused about your comment ... struggling to keep up .... 20% damage reduction doesn't always mean literally ..... and especially in this case. It turns out the DPS loss was only about 5%.

      I'm still topping dps meters. The only problem I see is that sometimes hunters are close to me. I have BiS gear and all the right talent and glyphs chosen. What do you have?

      I can absolutely tell you ... you're doing something wrong ..... what does your gear look like, do you have cleave and TC glyphs .... what talents are you using? Are you an intelligent player and maximize your damage up-time. You have to push your time on boss like a M O F O ( charge is your friend ) ..... there are so many factors. Fury Unleashed is not going to do all that for you.

      Please don't come on here and make blanket statements like .... Glad Stance has suffered so much unless you are 100% certain you know what you are talking about. Just ask for help ... control your emotion.
       
    17. Protoss

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      hi nomo
      tnx for updataing for arms but it have some problem on fly boss in dungen like dragon *4) on UBL routain didnt work good and didnt use anthing
       
    18. evolver

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      I'm doing 11k dps single target in Glad Stance with ilvl636, 5kdps against pvp targets, are these numbers correct, this is fresh install. Last xpac I was top of dmg in Mythic.
       
    19. nomnomnom

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      New version up for approval:

      Version 0.0.0.9-B3
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      * Core: Added proper StackCount method.
      * Core: Improved methods used for filling ComboBoxes - Alot less code now.
      * Hotkeys: Added Z, X and C as extra Hotkey options.
      * Hotkeys: Added manual-casting functionality - Disabled by default.
      * Hotkeys: Added setting under general to blacklist certain keys for the manual-casting functionality.
      * Questing: Added default setting for Ranged Attack usage when in Questing/Grinding rotations.
      * Questing: Fixed a bug where Charge and Heroic Leap were unable to find a proper path to the target.
      * Questing: Added a setting in which users can disable the usage of Heroic leap and Charge for the Questing rotations.
      * Gladiator: Fixed detection of Unyielding Strikes stacks.
      * Gladiator: Adjusted Heroic Strike and Devastate usage for Unyielding Strikes.
      * Prot: Added a setting to Prioritize Shield Barrier when target is casting a spell on you.
      * Prot: Fixed detection of Unyielding Strikes stacks.

      Post a logfile - Those pullmethods are implemented - You have to enable Ranged Attacks in the GUI under General.

      Edit: Separated the Ranged attack settings for Raid rotations and questing rotations.

      This.

      Hmm, can you post a logfile of that fight?

      I'm unsure on this - I do know gladiator's rotation is performing very well for my testers. But I think DPS really depends on lots of factors.

      On the fly.

      Your log shows a out of memory error - I think this is a HB issue. Can you try a fresh install?

      Setting added at next push.

      Post a logfile please :).

      Ravager is something I need to work on. But at this point it should cast Ravager at the location of your current target. My plan is to pause the routine when you press the hotkey so you can properly place it.

      On the same time, Execute costs a lot of rage - So Im not giving it any high priority in Defensive Stance as we need the rage for active mitigation. I think in AoE situations, Executes priority becomes lower as well.

      Please post a logfile - Thunderclap should be working perfectly - It only uses it for spreading in AoE situations and when there are 3 or more viable targets without the debuff.
       
    20. Blade429

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      Nom, you seemed to have missed my post:

       

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