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    1. alakelsms

      alakelsms New Member

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      Hey

      i hav 2 Bnet accounts with different name and email address.

      if i bot one and its get banned. will the other one be banned too based on IP? they will be on the same pc.

      thanks
       
    2. BotOperator

      BotOperator Well-Known Member

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      No one can answer this 100%. Blizz can check if on the same IP other accounts are online and then ban those too.
      If you don't want to loose an account don't bot and never connect a non botting account with a botting account in any way.
      No ip sharing, no trading, nothing.
      Btw. same question was answered minimum 100 times on the board already :)
       
    3. Trance101

      Trance101 Member

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      Na don't worry about IP....if they was going by detection games are better off using things that point towards the same computer. Hard disk ID, Uniquie ID, MAC etc
       
    4. Druid07

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      There are white static IPs and white dynamic IPs, the static white ones never change, only 1 person has the IP in the entire interwebz. However he can ask his ISP to change it and then the old IP could be assigned to someone else (innocent). White dynamic means and IP is assigned every time your router initializes, so say you get 127.0.0.1 once and then the next day it will be 127.0.0.2 and someone else will have 127.0.0.1. Then there are NATted IP addresses which use one white static/dynamic IP for many users of their network. TLDR IP bans are fcking bullshit, they may be applicable in smaller communities, small servers, where you can ban whole subnetwork and not care, do that in MMO and that's a huge playerbase minus.

      But they can try and fingerprint your hardware and also payment info may be flagged.
       
    5. Deathleecher

      Deathleecher New Member

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      I can tell you for sure you're other accounts are safe as long as you didn't bot on them.

      I have botted several times before on 1 of the 3 game accounts I had under the same battle net account. As the account I botted on got banned my other accounts were still fine.
       
    6. patrik-x

      patrik-x New Member

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      You are wrong.! I have a banned account that i have not botted on. And one that i botted on that is banned. from the same IP. You are talking trash ..
       
    7. Demondog70

      Demondog70 Active Member

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      It could be a MAC Address ban or a Hardware ID ban. IP address can change. It's not as safe a ban for Blizz as banning based on the other two and those accounts would have used the same Mac Address and Hardware correct?
       
    8. Demondog70

      Demondog70 Active Member

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      This makes more sense.
       
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      Demondog70 Active Member

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      When the term IP ban is used by multibotters, is quite often not referring to a straight-up , sensu stricto, IP ban. IP's are easily changed. And furthermore, they would use it to flag accounts, but manually checking them would be a necessity.

      It's normally used to define any sort of linkage between several computers that were intended to separate bot accounts, which could be using even different IP's; the methods that Blizzard uses to flag accounts are unknown to us (It could be any or several of dozens of Hardware ID's , network Identifiers, Wow installs, MaC ID's , etc)

      Right now Blizzard is (also in this aspect, sigh) ahead of botters. Both the most common obfuscating methods, including VPNs and Virtual Machines, and of course changing the basic ID's is proving to be ineffective. Nothing is effective when software detection happens, but taking that instances of detection apart, classical hiding methods are not proving useful either.

      Take into account that, as explained in the vids, those spoofing tricks are not changing the real, Hardware link IDs for both your HDD (which is the HWID) and MaC address. The fact that you can return to default values is a clear proof. And the "default" information is also easily obtainable, so if I were Blizzard, I would use it.

      Nothing is safe anymore. It never was, but now it's even more unsafe than ever. Blizzard position against Bots has taken a really harsh step forward, and their methods used and account actioning patterns prove it.

      TLDR; check ban reports. Don't use the bot if you have a Main account in the same household OR benefiting from the bot accounts in any way, cause the danger that you'll lose it has gone to almost non-existant to almost sure.
       
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    11. Cadence

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      Well I always shut down everything and did a quick file clean up everytime then logged on my main account it didn't get banned so whereas my botted account has been banned in the October wave.
       
    12. wtfmofo1

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      I bet you attached the bot at 1 point. You dont have to press start on the bot to get banned. Once you inject in to wow (on startup of bot) you are screwed.
       
    13. Aion

      Aion Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      If you are afraid of getting the bot attached to Honorbuddy, but you still have to share the same computer between bot and non-bot accounts, there is one stable solution:

      Play the non-botting characters only on the 64bit WoW client. Honorbuddy will never attach to it, even by mistake!
       

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