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    Discussion in 'Honorbuddy Forum' started by bossland, May 26, 2015.

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    1. pzebra

      pzebra New Member

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      Then you didnt look hard enough. Do you know how ones gets the title "Gladiator" and what it means when profiles are sold as "Gladiator" profiles?
       
    2. Xarian

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      The fanboyism in posts like this is just absolutely astonishing.

      Think for a bit, seriously, just think...

      For 4 years, there has been no fix for arena. The introduced fix for arena is LITERALLY 5 minutes of work, but for 4 years they have not paid attention to it

      For those 4 years, we've had many plugins, CCs and other crap for arena, they still didnt care to spend 5 minutes stopping people from using HB in arenas.

      Then we got buddystore, guess what, arena CCs making tonnes of money, everythings great, lets still not "fix" what was "never supported".

      4 years later, many $$$$ gathered by bossland from gladiator suite etc on buddystore, we get a banwave. FINALLY, FINALLY in the chaos of not knowing wtf happened to detect HB, we better spend 5 minutes disabling arena cuz we gotta do something. You are all eating the obvious excuses and lies portrayed by Bossland gmbh, even tho it is so stupidly obvious that they didnt care, because it was a benefit for them, until it no longer was.
       
    3. Hellokitty12

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      This is so true...
       
    4. Goshinki

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      Agreed.

      On top of that. "Pieces of code that are either remnants of functionality or possible future features that may or may not be implemented." Is complete joke.

      When you code something you outline what you want it to do and you create function for that purpose. There is no in between. It shows there was intent for arena and it wasn't removed in 4 years.


      Singular supported Arena. All you had to do was close HB and open when you joined the Arena so it wouldn't have issues targeting your same faction.

      Instead of fixing the targeting logic and adding interrupt settings the PVE author just stuck to PVE. No interrupt support, shity movement etc.


      That's where more authors we brought in to make money.


      So on every level you are wrong.

      Me and Xarian agree to your fanboyism.
       
    5. Blater

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      You TL;DR his post, yet you post a wall of text of your own. If you want others to read your wall of text, read the others too :p
       
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      tldr
       
    7. V1R4G3

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      Way to be about 35 minutes too late, Poptarts. 36 minutes sooner, and you would've been clever. Alas.
       
    8. AnoneeMouse

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      While I'm not really bothered by honorbuddy automation being disabled for arenas (though it would be nice to see skirmishes allowed, since they're arguably non-competitive and are a decent way to grind honor) I do find the intellectual dishonesty in this thread to be extremely disturbing. People convincing themselves that they're "not really cheating" if it's for PvE, or claims that the site never advocated arena botting when it clearly harboured combat routines explicitly tailored for that purpose. It's just silly.
       
    9. V1R4G3

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      I thought the combat routines were explicitly tailored for PVP? PVP is still supported.
       
    10. AnoneeMouse

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      Yeah, that's why they were called "Gladiator Suite" and advertised ranking potential in arenas. Like I said, the intellectual dishonesty is ridiculous. I understand that it's important for some to always "win" arguments on the internet, but explicitly attempting to misrepresent the situation does not make you look good. It just informs anyone paying attention that you're either dishonest or incredibly obtuse.
       
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    11. V1R4G3

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      Which of the Honorbuddy developers makes Gladiator Suite?
       
    12. AnoneeMouse

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      Do you habitually post meaningless rhetoric, or am I just lucky? This is the Internet. If you knowingly harbour content, then you are advocating its use.
       
    13. Thecamel

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      Its a very good point ?
       
    14. AnoneeMouse

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      Are you asking me if it's a good point? Because if so, it's not. If you knowingly harbour content, then you are advocating its use. It's really that simple. Support and advocacy are not exclusive to development. I could maybe see the merit in this argument if the Honorbuddy team was somehow unaware of the Gladiator Suite CRs on their store, but given the developer vetting and 40% sales cut that would be effectively impossible. I'm not contesting the right of Bossland and the Honorbuddy developers to alter their program and website as they see fit, but to claim that they never supported it to begin with is demonstrably false.

      To loosely reference Goshinki's analogy from earlier, this is paramount to arguing that drug dealers are not supporting or facilitating drug use, on the grounds that they are not manufacturing the drugs themselves.

      [SUB][SUB]Disclaimer: The above analogy should not be regarded as a comparison of ethicacy. Botting and drug dealing are greatly divorced in that context.[/SUB][/SUB]
       
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      >2015
      >being this dumb
       
    16. assitoni

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      i only used honorbuddy for BG botting and arenas, and i only bought the CRs for it.

      i hope some other bot is being released then..
       
    17. V1R4G3

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      So, your strongest argument is that because Honorbuddy allowed a PVP CR to be sold on their store whom advertises as part of their offering Arena support and did not remove said CR from the store or take the liberty of editing or censoring the CR developer's offering that they support it? Even despite refusing to support the functionality, at every single reported onset of technical issue?

      Allow != support. Nothing is stopping GS from developing their own bot.
       
    18. V1R4G3

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      Translation "When someone makes a point I can't possibly refute, it hurts so bad."
       
    19. eXtOphius

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      What is there to refute? You didn't "make a point", you asked a question that you should be able to answer on your own. He's pointing out that you apparently don't know how to use 'Search' on a website in 2015.

      Good luck!

      XtO
       
    20. V1R4G3

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      I wasn't able to read between the lines. I concede to that. I wasn't really sure what he meant to say, but I got from context that it wasn't particularly positive toward me.

      My post wasn't me genuinely asking which Honorbuddy developer develops Gladiator Suite. It was facetiously stating that Honorbuddy doesn't develop Gladiator Suite. It was actually very clever, and the point I was making was made with the right people. It was simply over tomcruise's head, apparently. And his statement didn't make any sense to me whatsoever. So... I guess we both have egg on our face. lol

      And since the only thing constructive he could come up with was 'Search Tool, nub'...

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      That's all I got for ya, so grab your torches and head back to camp.
       
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