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    Discussion in 'Rogue' started by TheFuture, Oct 21, 2014.

    1. About20Pandas

      About20Pandas New Member

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      Have anyone compared this to TuanHA's paid routine? I'm expecting it to be higher, but i have no clue how much to expect.
       
    2. Chadakkins

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      I have always been a backer of this routine. It is very good I will tell you honestly it obviously is not perfect and is still being updated and worked. It does however leave Tuan's rogue routine in the dust. I also love Tuan's routines and the majority of his are outstanding and great quality. For whatever reason his rogue routine has been very lacking. Just trial both and see what you like!
       
    3. Stormchasing

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      nice too hear ;)
      still working on the update (sorry had to support and debug some issues with the dk routine ... which were no bugs in the end)
       
    4. Chadakkins

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      Haha of course man! This is definitely already the bets rogue pve routine out there and has the most potential! I've been using sub and ass in my guilds normal and heroic highmaul and for how poor rogue look on paper i've been doing rather well!
       
    5. About20Pandas

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      Well i tried the 7 day trial. So far it's 10k DPS behind TuanHA, so i'm not really impressed.

      Edit: It doesn't use Death from Above either.
       
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    6. Chadakkins

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      Well DfA is the worst talent for all three specs lol
       
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      For combat it's not bad. Actually my DPS rose by 5% when swapping away from Venom Rush.

      Edit:Typo.
       
    8. Chadakkins

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      Hm thats odd haha on paper it's the worst talent for all three by a pretty decent amount xD
       
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      Shadowcraft says it's an increase as well.
      I decided to test it after seeing that EVERY SINGLE Combat rogue from Method uses DFA.
       
    10. Stormchasing

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      U enabled the usage of cool downs?
      Yeah I stated already that dfa is currently not supported (should be ready tomorrow)... But why should any rogue use this talent?it is the weakest one for all specs and the most expensive (needs too much energy to be used and most pooling of resources (combo points and energy)

      But yeah... Like I said... Currently working on it.

      To the dps lack.... I'm sure u missed something like enabling the use of cool downs (a user if the dk routine made a similar mistake while he tried to compare the routine with another one,after showing him what to do he has better result than with the other one...so... Feel free to attach a log (so that I can be sure it is not related to thrown errors and to see which specc and so) and maybe to ask for settings :)

      My toon is only level 90 so I can only test the basics like casting spells and pooling resources, for finetunung I'll need some useful feedback (hot already some informations that I'm implementing until tomorrow)
       
    11. Stormchasing

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      Weird,shadow craft said it is the weakest one,I read through roughly the whole forum on Monday.
       
    12. LovelessOne

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      It's one of those talents that do poorly in sims but great in actual fights. It's really great burst AoE which is great on some fights. Not having an option for it in the bot is a mistake.
       
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      Cooldowns are enabled, yea.
      Well Simcrafts and personal tests on Dummies+Imperator showed that DfA increased my DPS by 5-10% over long fights.

      I'll post a log asap - currently spamming dungeons on my Priest.

      EDIT: Log attached

      View attachment 800 2014-12-12 00.54.txt
       
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    14. Stormchasing

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      @Chadakkins i'm close to finishing the new beta for subtlety (assassination is already finised), shot me a pm when ur online within the next 2 hours and i'll give u access to the beta and some information about the current state of it
       
    15. Stormchasing

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      Sushi - Subtlety specc
      We've encountered an issue with ShadowReflection and ShadowDance which we are currently working at (the issue was already resolved, but working on the 8 seconds SR phase before the reflection will mimic our actions)
      the problem encountered should be solved until tomorrow in the evening
       
    16. Stormchasing

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      Dear costumers,

      we are close to a new public version, we are currently running the last tests (so i'm confident that i can push an update to subtlety today)

      overview of what happened the last days:

      first i thought i can update and improve all 3 speccs, but i was wrong, i have to do it one by one, so the first specc which gets an update is subtlety

      Timeline:

      • v1.0.1.31 k Beta some tweaks to SR and SD, both do now react correctly on there settings, removed some unnecessary lua calls 12/15/2014 5:30:07 PM
      • v1.0.1.31 j Beta possible fix for energy pooling 12/14/2014 3:09:08 PM
      • v1.0.1.31 h Beta modified shadowdance task 12/14/2014 2:47:24 PM
      • v1.0.1.31 g Beta slightly tweaked Shadow Reflection 12/14/2014 2:01:18 PM
      • v1.0.1.31 f Beta fixed Shadow Reflection in Subtlety 12/14/2014 1:50:45 PM
      • v1.0.1.31 e Beta changed from milliseconds to seconds, getting energy now by lua not hb api, hb api is now fallback if lua is not working 12/14/2014 1:12:05 PM
      • v1.0.1.31 d Beta subtlety back to default rotation 12/14/2014 12:07:42 PM
      • v1.0.1.31 c Beta Racials added, running a mix of beta and public rotation for subtlety 12/14/2014 11:31:20 AM
      • v1.0.1.31 b Beta added eviscerate to finisher task 12/14/2014 10:59:52 AM
      • v1.0.1.31 a Beta Backstab and Hemorrhage had the wrong condition 12/12/2014 9:58:44 PM
      • v1.0.1.31 Beta new beta Rotation for Assassination added, new beta Rotation for Subtlety added, new Rotations supporting all 90s and 100s Talents, new Rotations supporting AOE and Singletarget, currently no support for any keys, everything will be used when we think it is perfect (or at least as perfect as possible)

      There were of course some internal builts the days before yesterday which took also a long time cause of the underlying theory for rogues (i'm still not familar with them and still learning a lot while testing and talking and so on)

      the next specc will be assassination, so if u have any issues with assassination ... give some feedback, i can only make it better with your support
      things i wanna now: do we miss a talent / ability? is the rotation okay or wrong? do we need special rotations if buff x and y are up and so on? (i can figure this out on my own, but this will take a while ... there is a reason why ravenholdt and shadowcraft and i'm not able to read and learn everything within a short time, so ... forgive me please :) )
       
    17. fabi229

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      If you make a good sub rotation I'll buy your CR! '-'

      The HB community need ASAP a proper rogue CR :/
       
    18. Akiles

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      the apply posion not stop rotine... its bug?
      with the poison put it continues to put

      can help?

      thanks
       
    19. Stormchasing

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      what's wrong with the current sub rotation? haven't seen any comparable CR atm (dps wise, tested vs yrb2, tuanha paid/free, singular of course)

      no log, no help
      i double checked the code and it works fine for me.
       
    20. Akiles

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      its a bug?

      can help


      View attachment 7652 2014-12-16 16.47.txt


      its a problema and not stop

      [16:52:45.102 N] [Sushi]: Casting Instant Poison at Me (157584)
      [16:52:46.831 N] [Sushi]: Casting Instant Poison at Me (157584)
      [16:52:48.568 N] [Sushi]: Casting Instant Poison at Me (157584)
      [16:52:50.280 N] [Sushi]: Casting Instant Poison at Me (157584)
      [16:52:52.077 N] [Sushi]: Casting Instant Poison at Me (157584)


      thanks
       

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