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  1. lckwjl

    lckwjl New Member

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    I have a question regarding which CR is best for holy paladin in a high end pve enviroment.
    Currently I use leaves on my resto druid and it is godly. I am wondeirng which of the available holy paladin crs are equally as good or the best from the selection.
    I have Tuanha's holy paladin, kingwow, and oracle. I have been testing Tuanha and it is ok; but it is missing some stuff I would like to see.
    For instance leaves has rules for fights and knows when to start prehotting, would be cool to see some holy radiance spam before a big aoe. (been doing that manually)
    Anyways just looking for other peoples results.
     
  2. TheHammer

    TheHammer New Member

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    I use TuanHA, doing dispel mechanics (like on Sha of Pride) manually, and have no problem with that. Also, you say about the pre-hotting from Leaves (that i also use on my Druid).. that's good, but if you manage your cooldowns right, you have no problem with that feature missing (like using Holy Avenger + Divine Favor about 10s before garrosh uses his spin attack, so bot will start putting Eternal Flame + absorbs - or a lot of absorbs, if you are using Selfless Healer - on the raid, to both, heal and mitigate damage).

    Also, understand how the CR works.. it prioritize to heal your target when it's bellow 100%, then your Focus (if target at 100% or Focus bellow 70%), then you, then the raid. Abuse this accoding to the fight, learn that and it's GG. Learn how the bot works and you can use that for preemptive healing (specially because our Mastery give us absorbs).

    If you really want to do High End PvE, but it's too lazy to do at least that, quit playing a Holy Paladin and go play your Druid with Leaves, LOL.

    P.S.: i won't share my settings, because there is no secret at all.. i disable almost everything from it, use all cooldowns (including Hands, except for HoS and LoH) manually.. LoH 10% and HoS 60%.. Also, Divine Shield i setup for 15%.. That's all, i mainly use the routine for the raw healing job...

    Currently raiding 10 Man HC, 13/14H, with 14k Spirit. 574 ilvl. Using Eternal Flame talent. 45% Haste Breakpoint. Red sockets: 80 int/160 mastery.. Yellow sockets: 320 Mastery.. Blue sockets: 160 mastery/160 spirit.. Professions: BS + Alch (Int Flask, always).. Glyphs: Beacon of Light, Hand of Sacrifice (HoS) and Divinity (some fights Blinding Light Glyph).
     
  3. lckwjl

    lckwjl New Member

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    Thanks for your input!
    Yea ive only been using Tuanha's a few days but I am understanding how it works. I just tried oracle tonight and it did better. Gonna keep messing around with both till I figure out whats the best.
    Leaves to good :)
     
  4. tataros

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    wait a minute, I am using TuanHa too on my holy pala. So lets say that I have the tank targeted or on focus (I usually have one tank targeted and one on focus) and the tank or focus or me are on 90% life but there is/are raid members at 40-60, does that mean that the bot will ignore those raid members until it heals target/focus/me to 100%??Maybe I should not have a target/focus and only take the tank target if I know that is going to take a massive damage?
     
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    Yes, as per TuanHa's FAQs, the heal logic is - "It will heal a target (if below 95%) > then your Focus (if below 70%) > then You (If below 70%) > Everyone else. So just target your tank and set focus on your off tank, The Combat Routine will heal them first."
     
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    but it is stupid to heal tank that has 90% HP and not heal a DPS member that is at <50%...I wonder if other routines work that way too or if there is an other logic.. for example if DPS is <50% and tank >80% then it heals DPS first and then tank..
     
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    So don't target or focus the tanks and it will do that
     
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    but if I do that, and tank and 4 other DPS are under 60% then will prioritize tank in that scenario?Or it will pick a random one? Anyway, I ll just don't get targets/focus and see how is working
     
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    lckwjl New Member

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    The logic is a little weird to be honestly, but I believe it is this way for pvp purposes. Try oracle tataros it is better in PvE
     
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    thanks I ll check it out..I was just waiting for Oracle 2, last time I checked was still in development (although that was some time ago, gonna check again now :) )
     
  11. TheHammer

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    In theory, maybe. But remmember that is only a PRIORITY, bot has lots of triggers, because it can multi-task, so it won't be healing only 1 target at a time, when someone health on the raid drop, you have lots of settings (like divine light target bellow 60% or holy light target bellow 90%, holy radiance 3 players bellow 90, etc..), bot will keep healing the tank everytime it can, but also heal other people (holy paladins are really good at that, because of Holy Radiance and EF HoTs).

    I keep my main tank as my target and my offtank as my focus target basically 100% of the time. But if someone on the raid drop like bellow 40% i target then, bot will PRIORITIZE to keep the tank and offtank up, at the same time that heals that target (or targets), accordingly to your settings (i change mines from fight to fight, for a better mana balance and more output when required).
     

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