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    Discussion in 'Druid' started by handnavi, Aug 29, 2014.

    1. immortalhz

      immortalhz Member

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      yep, sure, you can just check rip uptime, it differs a lot
       
    2. cardo11

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      Oh, thank you!
       
    3. Parlour

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      Dude, we're talking about two very different things. Don't worry about it.
       
    4. firstmidnight

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      hey handnavi, i've noticed my Rip often falls off, but letting rip fall is a massive dps loss and it should be avoided at all costs :C

      log from Imperator Mar'gok
       
    5. handnavi

      handnavi Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Hi firstmidnight,

      thanks for your report.
      If Rip falls off, its a dps loss, true - but we cant pretend it.
      We will only refresh Rip early, if a new Rip would be stronger then the current ticking Rip - otherwise we would loose just more dps.
      If the new Rip would be weaker, we only reapply when Rip time left is <3 seconds.

      Sometimes it also happens that the buff timeleft of Savage Roar and the debuff timeleft of Rip are synched. Then Rip might be off for a large amount of time.


      By looking at the Rip uptime, keep also the following in mind:
      - We all have bad gear. The uptime will dramatically improve if your gear gets better.
      - Our dots in WoD are weaker then in MoP.
       
    6. handnavi

      handnavi Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Hey immortalhz,

      i just spent some minutes (1 hour) at the dummy.
      The rip uptime (~ -1%) and the overall dps (~ + 300-1000dps) were about the same.
      Also keep in mind, that you cannnot really simulate a training dummy in SimC. You dont have the execute time (< 25% Health). This obviouly leads to a) lower dps and b) lower Rip uptimes. :)
       
    7. volkvin

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      [09:19:33.419 N] Healing Touch
      [09:20:09.450 N] Draenic Agility Potion
      [09:20:09.451 N] Prowl
      [09:20:14.407 N] Kihra's Adrenaline Injector
      [09:20:14.692 N] [83][4] Rake--> Imperator Mar'gok
      [09:20:14.707 N] [83][4] Berserk
      [09:20:14.707 N] [83][4] Tiger's Fury
      [09:20:14.710 N] [83][4] Mastery
      [09:20:15.268 N] [89][4] Incarnation: King of the Jungle
      [09:20:16.171 N] [100][4] Shred--> Imperator Mar'gok
      [09:20:17.182 N] [92][5] Rip--> Imperator Mar'gok
      [09:20:18.172 N] [89][0] Shred--> Imperator Mar'gok
      [09:20:19.196 N] [79][1] Shred--> Imperator Mar'gok
      [09:20:20.214 N] [73][3] Shred--> Imperator Mar'gok
      [09:20:21.229 N] [63][5] Healing Touch--> Lvl 100 Alliance Paladin
      [09:20:22.261 N] [75][5] Ferocious Bite--> Imperator Mar'gok
      [09:20:23.297 N] [60][0] Shred--> Imperator Mar'gok
      [09:20:24.357 N] [53][2] Shred--> Imperator Mar'gok
      [09:20:25.346 N] [45][4] Healing Touch--> Lvl 100 Alliance Paladin
      [09:20:26.345 N] [56][4] Shred--> Imperator Mar'gok
      [09:20:27.411 N] [48][5] Ferocious Bite--> Imperator Mar'gok
      [09:20:28.463 N] [35][0] Shred--> Imperator Mar'gok
      [09:20:30.782 N] [40][2] Shred--> Imperator Mar'gok
      [09:20:31.794 N] [11][4] Healing Touch--> Lvl 100 Alliance Shaman
      [09:20:33.859 N] [36][4] Rake--> Imperator Mar'gok
      [09:20:38.292 N] [51][5] Rip--> Imperator Mar'gok
      [09:20:40.062 N] [40][0] Shred--> Imperator Mar'gok
      [09:20:41.259 N] [15][2] Rejuvenation--> Lvl 100 Alliance DeathKnight
      [09:20:42.204 D] Trying to apply on: 77809 Name: Arcane Aberration Debug: #1
      [09:20:42.315 N] [28][2] Thrash
      [09:20:42.315 D] Applied Thrash on: 77809 Name: Arcane Aberration
      [09:20:42.315 D] Applied Thrash on: 77428 Name: Imperator Mar'gok
      [09:20:43.321 N] [39][2] Rake--> Arcane Aberration
      [09:20:44.323 N] [13][4] Healing Touch--> Lvl 100 Alliance DeathKnight
      [09:20:44.458 N] [15][4] Tiger's Fury


      Hey Handnavi,
      Just maybe something worth looking into. I HT, prepot, prowl and open up with rake. Which is standard. Routine does everything just great. Except for the things i highlighted.
      I dont like that it uses rake while in incarnation form. I think we have to force SB to use rake only when incarnation time left <5sec. I dont like that it uses thrash during incarnation. So somehow we have to drop bold things during incarnation spam and only leave the green line :D

      View attachment 11160 2014-12-14 01.47.txt
       
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    8. firstmidnight

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      ah, got it. thank you for explanation
       
    9. handnavi

      handnavi Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Hey Volkvin,

      Incarnation is our best damage multiplier, it multiplies the dmg of rake by 200%! So its totally worth it.
      You might be right regarding Thrash, will check it. Thanks! :)

      Edit:
      I simmed it now: its totally dps neutral (38300 dps vs 38300 dps with the heroic profiles for example).

      The priority of Thrash is anyway very very low - and it will only be used when OOC procs. We wont waste combopoints - and Thrash has a very good damage per energy value anyway. So i think everything is okay here. :)
       
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    10. immortalhz

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      bah allrighty then, i will write 2 logs and compare it step by step ( ur cr and my hands :D )
      btw in volkvin log, he used incarnation after berserk :D havent seen it this way with ur cr, maybe he has turned burst off and clicked it himself
      maybe you can do some energy pooling, i do some fights w/o hb for example twins in higmaul :p
       
    11. fightcancer

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      Will this routine do Rebirth (battle res) in BGs?
       
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      Also, will the routine do Resto or Balance? Thanks!
       
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      No it doesnt. This is a Feral / Guardian CR ;)
       
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      really?? this doesnt take latency into consideration???..... lol.... wasting a good minute or more over 15 minutes cose of that...
       
    15. immortalhz

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      what do u mean?
       
    16. handnavi

      handnavi Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Dont know, didnt test. It "should" :D

      In PVE it works. :)
       
    17. handnavi

      handnavi Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Hi Jorakel,

      thanks for your wonderful bug report.
      Superbad takes latency into account, thats why it pushes buttons as fast as possible.
      If it doesnt work for you, there is something wrong.

      I can help you if you post a logfile, otherwise i cant help you. ;)
       
    18. immortalhz

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      handnavi, i have a question ;D how is the burst key should be used, trying to get it to work for some time, no luck ;)

      ps.if you wanna do translations of your cr i can help you with korean and russian :D
       
    19. handnavi

      handnavi Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      No idea how it should be used, it was just a request by a user. I dont use any modifications, i always run the default settings. :D
      In general it should do the following: If you push the hotkey, it should burn all selected cooldowns if they are ready for usage.


      Thanks for offering your help, i think i will need it. :)
      I try to redesign the GUI @ christmas vacation, i will msg you then.
       
    20. immortalhz

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      hm, only berserk is being used, incarnation and troll racial isnt :) to be honest, it can be used manually w/o problems, but i think there should be key to switch tf auto usage then, cyclone mouse over etc :D
      do u have any skype conference with ur users? mb you shall make one :)
       

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